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Grr.

It's one of those episodes. It's moving too quickly, unless these last ten minutes are epic, I'll feel unsatisfied.

So what do you guys think, Sanjog?--Riddler 21:50, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

Definatley not satisfied. I feel that having Nathan fly him away and Sylar's death were cheesy. =\--Riddler 22:04, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

Kind of puzzled about Sylar? I read a post by orson Scot card talking about how hoffible and despicable Sylar was/is. The idea was that Sylar should be killed or at least hibernated. I am quite excited by this man who can see Molly Walker when she looks for him. I guess that will be the main antagonist for Gnerations. What will happen to Sylar though since Quinto is now a cast regular, i dont see much narrative logic for a redemption of the character - Core

Only somewhat satisfied. Peter's punches could have at least been super-Niki punches. I was hoping for a more 'ability' filled fight, or a coordinated heroes fight. But hey, according to Molly, someone much worse than Sylar is around. This could be interesting (for next season). OUChevelleSS 23:31, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

  • a. I saw that the only way to save NY was Peter or Nathan flying a few episodes ago, so no surprise there. b. who's to say we haven't already met the 'someone much worse'. I could think of a bunch of people (Angela, Haitian, Claire's bio mom) that could fit that bill!! Disney42 23:45, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
    • There were a number of possibilities even pretty early on during the season (such as Peter/Hiro time travelling out of there). I think the one used was more dramatic and fit Peter's early dream though. I personally felt simultaneously thrilled (typical of each ep) and dissatisfied. I suspect it's because there was so much less closure than we were probably all expecting. Everything is very open-ended, likely for lead-ins to season 2. It's not clear what exactly happened to Nathan and Peter. And Sylar isn't killed off. (Although they kinda set themselves up for that since whether finishing him or keeping him could be argued by some to be a sort of cop-out.) Regarding b), well.. Molly says the person is much worse but isn't a bad person. And then we see the really bizarre vision that Peter has communing with the dead Charles Deveaux. Hehehe... --Glue 01:39, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
      • Oh. And the later punches did look stronger than normal, so.. not sure what you're referring to.. --Glue 01:51, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
        • I dunno, Parkman asks if it's 'someone bad, like the boogey man' and she says 'no, he's a lot worse'. So I think it's a villain. OUChevelleSS 11:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
          • Okay, I just rewatched it and listened to the exact lines and I recant what I said. Great jebus's ghost, is there ANYTHING about this "finale" that isn't open-ended and ambiguous? XP --Glue 03:11, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
    • I think Molly was referring to Uluru being able to see her. In last week's CBR Q&A, Aron Coleite and Joe Pokaski said we would be some hint of Uluru before the end of the season. That reference is the only thing that I can think of that even comes close. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:49, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
      • They also said he is not necessarily physically real, he could represent an idea or an emotion or something like that. I think this is much more likely, I would be very surprised if they suddenly threw in a giant mutant rhino-elephant as a new villain. This show is about regular people in extraordinary circumstances. A villain like this would not fit at all. -- Johnc 17:41, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
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    They kinda pulled a LOST by asking more questions than they answered. They really should have stretched the finale to two hours or added another episode imo, especially considering they decided to start Chapter 2 at the end. 43 minutes wasn't enough time to accomplish everything they had set themselves up for :\. Also, the Noah reveal could have been a lot more interesting; "Call me Noah"? Cheese city! The reveal would be much more interesting if they saved it for next season on another HRG-centric episode (or they should have done it on Company Man oh well.. looking forward to next season :) --Frantik (Talk) 05:37, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • I think any time you set up a "what's the character's name?" mystery, the reveal is always a let-down. After all, it's just a name, and it spoils the fun. Mr. Big in Sex and the City was the same way, as was the "Wolverine is named James Hewlett" thing (although I hear that's been retconned since). I mean, unless his first name had been "Susan" or something, any name you give is bound to be a disappointment, no matter how you reveal it.--Hardvice (talk) 14:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • For all his training with his powers, Peter is frigg'n lame in this episode. He can't/doesn't use his telekensis to fight, he doesn't fly off by himself, he just sits there and panics. His helplessness was frustraiting. Grr.--ASEO 11:33, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Agree, that was very upsetting for me. I felt like I was seeing a sad little puppy getting kicked. FWIW though, he was calm enough to wait for his brother to speak calmly and slowly to him before both flew off; overall I was more disappointed by the lack of diversity using acquired powers during the fight vs. Sylar. --Torley 22:14, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
      • Yeah, although I think there was a reason he couldn't stop himself which we may find. He acknowledged that whatever was making him go off was messing with his other powers. I think when Peter said 'I can't do anything', he meant it literally: he wanted to fly away or something, but something strange was wrong and everything else of his was nullified. Just my opinion, of course. OUChevelleSS 23:39, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Just admit it, you all wanted to actually see NYC blow up. A [Dark Future]] season would be awesome! ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 12:43, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • I was so hoping that exact thing would happen. Dsytopian worlds are FAR more interesting... Tfo 15:35, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • There is something I don't get, why Peter doesn't fly alone an explode far far away in the sky or at least in a desert place. And why doesn't Claire shoot him in the head killing him until they later remove him the bullet and do it again and again until he controls his power. Shooting him in the brain would have kill him and removing the bullet would have rez him... that was the logic solution and the easy one. Killing Nathan is meaningless and uneeded, I don't get it, was it to make housewives cry ?... :p Could you guys explain me ? -- FrenchFlo (talk)        13:35, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Peter was doing everything he could to hold back Ted's power. There was no way he was going to be able to properly use other powers. And a wound like a bullet in the head (which is far, far more severe than impalement) would definitely kill Peter. The impact and nature of the bullet would cause an incredible, if not irreparable, amount of damage to the brain, where the powers come from. Enough to prevent Peter from coming back to life...ever.
      • ^ I know not all situations can be covered (esp. with so many powers adding up and opportunities where we can go, "But why didn't X use Y?"), but this makes me wonder why instead of a gun, they didn't consider a more primitive impalement instrument, kinda like an icepick, or those things they stuck in the back of the neck for the Alien Bounty Hunters on The X-Files. Some have already speculated that Nathan may have dropped Peter from an even higher distance... who knows until next season, eh? --Torley 22:14, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
        • For that matter, we might as well ask why Claude didn't just appear and knock Peter out again (or why really anyone didn't bother to do that this time). --Glue 02:31, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

I am a bit puzzled. I thought Candice was dead?

  • Hard to tell, but I doubt Niki's punch killed her. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:57, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Kaito=Kensei?

Did anyone notice that it appears that Hiro's dad is Kensei?

  • If you look at a high-def screencap of Kensai, you will definately seen George Takei peeking out through the face-mask. Kaito is Kensai, and his power is longevity. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 05/22/2007 12:05 (EST)
    • Or alternately, he really is just an ancestor, and he happens to look like Kaito. Too soon to tell, really.--Hardvice (talk) 14:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
      • At the Yamagato Fellowship Website [1] the alternate text for a picture of Kensei is Kaito Nokomura... although now that I look a little closer this may be a mistake as their is a picture on the main page with the same alt text that actually is Kaito Nakomura. -- Johnc 17:59, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
        • Longevity would make sense with a lot of world mythologies, including Japanese, and there's a poetic beauty in Hiro's dad telling him stories of himself from hundreds of years ago. Also sort of a parallel between the dinosaur Hiro encountered in the museum, and the dragon that Kaito talked about. Longevity would also support what Kaito said in Landslide about waiting for a Nakamura to ascend and be "worthy" — it'd be meaningful if he was waiting a long time. --Torley 22:25, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • While longevity sounds cool and would be a good power to have on the show, I can't really see how Kaito could survive cutting his own heart out and giving it to a dragon (unless he's an empath/power-stealer and he absorbed longevity AND regen). --unfalln 16:17, 25 May 2007 (AEST)
      • Actually, it's very possible that Kaito/Kensei survived cutting his own heart out. Chandra Suresh's studies state that the source of every evolved human's ability is their brain; hence, Claire and Peter not regenerating when wounded in that area. Besides, many myths have included "removal of organs" (Egyptian mythology, etc.) as a factor of immortality. It could even be possible the dragon granted him immortality or "unlocked" his hidden ability, but then the show would branch out into the magic/fantasy genre... (E-Man 21:21, 28 May 2007 (EDT))
      • That said, I do remember someone debunking the Nathan-flies-Peter-into-the-sky possibility due to an above-ground explosion causing more damage and fallout than a ground one. --unfalln 16:17, 25 May 2007 (AEST)

Claire and Matt

  • Hello---Why didnt Clair run to the cop to cure him of his bullet wounds? --Peterlover 01:39, August 14, 2007
    • Claire can only heal her own wounds, not other people's. (Admin 01:42, 14 August 2007 (EDT))
      • Right. You might be confusing Claire's ability to heal herself with Linderman's ability to heal others. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:43, 14 August 2007 (EDT)
        • She can heal others when there injected with her blood, so she CAN heal other people. WaterRatj 18:42, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
          • No need to bring back such an old topic, when this aired her blood wasn't a plot device yet. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:59, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
            • This conversation took place almost two years ago. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
              • Still, doesn't matter when it wasn't a plot device yet, her powers has always been the same, well mostly WaterRatj 23:02, 2 October 2009 (EDT)

Monologue in the beginning

  • I am german, so i did not get all of the text but i guess someone else can fill in the missing parts.

"Where does it come from, this quest? This need to solves lifes mysteries where simpliest questions can never be answered. Why are we here? What is the soul? Why do we dream? How is it *** not looking at all? Not ***ing, not ***ing. But that's not human nature, not the human heart. That, is not why we are here. Yet still we struggle to make a difference, to change the world, to dream of hope. Never knowing for certain who we will meet along the way. Who among the world of strangers will hold our hand, touch our hearts and share the pain of trying?"
Am i supposed to put in the article right away or who is gonna do that? Waldmeister 08:11, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

    • in full (though grammar's not great...
      "Where does it come from? this quest, this need to solve life's mysteries when the simplest of questions can never be answered. Why are we here? what is the soul? why do we dream? perhaps we'd be better off not looking at all, not delving, not yearning. But that's not human nature, not the human heart, that is not why we are here. Yet still we struggle to make a difference, to change the world, to dream of hope. Never knowing for certain who we will meet along the way. Who among a world of strangers will hold our hand, touch our hearts and share the pain of trying?" Ehsteve23 09:56, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Sylar's Bloody Trail to the Sewer

Did anyone get the impression that the disappearance of Sylar's body was less him dragging himself to the sewer and more SOMEONE or SOMETHING dragging him off? Gdavisoh 08:20, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

I thought there was a roach refernce there with the roach crawling on the man hole cover. Like roaches can survive with their heads cut off or some super Roach power thing.--ASEO 11:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Our thought too... that he was dragged vs. dragged himself. It's just an impression though; I can't point to any strong evidence one way or the other. Roche 13:52, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
    • If it helps, in the commentary, Tim Kring, Dennis Hammer, and Allan Arkush talk about discussions they had about whether or not to show bloody handprints leading into the sewer, which kind of implies he did leave under his own power (though the question is very much open).--Hardvice (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • I like this theory that Sylar was dragged, which means that the cockroach would symbolize whoever/whatever dragged him. I was confused by the cockroach before I heard this theory, because it had never before been used as a symbol for Sylar. Although it could also symbolize something that can survive a nuclear blast, but that really wouldn't apply to Sylar, since he has no regenerative powers. So, has the cockroach appeared as a symbol in the show before this? This theory raises another question: What kind of super villain would want Sylar? Afterall, Sylar steals superpowers, so only someone who can control Sylar (or protect himself) would want to rescue him. -Eisnel 18:03, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Although I can't believe that whit all the heroes sitting around in the plaza and the EMTs showing up that no one noticed Syler leave...Or better yet that on one went over and emptied a clip from one of the guns into him. Don't these people watch Movies and TV. Bad guys are never really dead. Go for the overkill!--ASEO 11:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Did anyone else get the impression that Sylar is a ninja turtle?--Ice Vision 19:51, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

A ninja, perhaps. Not so much of a turtle... ;) But Sylar certainly was stealthy. But as ASEO mentioned, given the dramatic events of the night, and all these eyeballs, and they happened to miss him crawling into the manhole. Required a lot of creative disbelief, esp. after Sylar caused so much trouble. However, given his telekinetic ability, I have a feeling he slid along the road into the sewer. Alternatively, the "SOMEONE or SOMETHING" dragging him off is intriguing; I think a villain who controls insects, including 'roaches, would be very sinister. --Torley 22:29, 22 May 2007 (EDT)


I agree with the dragging idea. the smear left behind is consistent with assisted motion along a surface like concrete. I had a weird dream about the next villian using Sylar as a collared dog. It wolu dbe kind of lame though since it might engender straight pity/compassion instead of the great conflicts this character causes for me right now.As for the cockroach, they seemed to be companionable to Sylar during his stint at Primatech. It would seem like something is using familiars to observe Sylar? It would make sense if the next villian really threatened the world. After all while NY may be important, it is not the world. I dont think that the prophecy of "Save the cheerleader, save the world" has been fulfilled yet. Since I am speculating, does Mohinder's anitbodies being able to heal/treat Molly make him a superhero? It is likely that other special little girls may also contract the disease and right now Dr. Suresh seems to be the only way to treat it. --Core

  • Mohinder healing Molly doesn't necessarily make him a superhero--just a really good scientist. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Where is everything?

Why is it completely blank except for the infobox? Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 10:26, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

  • A stray open comment had most of the page left commented out so it wasn't displaying. I fixed it. (Admin 10:31, 22 May 2007 (EDT))

The Parking Meter

Any ideas why Sylar could use it just as easily as Niki without enhanced strength? I thought the first swing was with his TK, but then he's wielding it just as easily as Niki does with her strength. Hmm, conversely, the blows in my opinion hit him just like other blows (although Peter's punches had a loud sound). Maybe one of his powers that we don't know about it super-stamina or endurance, which is also why he doesn't die when bullets have hit him, sword wound, etc. Or maybe it was just a mistake. OUChevelleSS 15:21, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Sounds reasonable to me that Sylar used telekinesis to enhance his swinging of said parking meter. We've already seen him use it to hurl things and bodies with very hard force. --Torley 22:19, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Here is a crazy thought. Since Telekinesis gives one the ability to ontrl the motion of objects with your mind, colud it not also grnat a kind of support to muscles. After all since you can lift and push with your mind why not be able to press and pull. I have been thinking about how Sylar survived Parkman's shots and those in the Bennet house and the best thing I can come up with is a species of superspeed. I am not saying he is the flash but rathe that he is able to move/phase/shift. This colud either be as a result of a specific power he absorbed or a side-effect of his absorbption process. A rather less satisfying idea is that he absorbs lifeforce along with superpowers. ---Core

Ending

I thought the ending with Hiro in the 1600s didn't really fit. I know it was starting the 2nd season, but still. Also, does anyone know when the 2nd season is starting?--‪‪‪X66x66 16:03, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

September 24th, 2007 --Piemanmoo 01:09, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Goof?

When Hiro talks with his father, before he leaves Kaito gives him Takezo's sword. Then when he teleports at Issac's apartment he isn't holding anything, and is picking up Ando's sword. Then when they both teleport to Yamagata Industries Cubicles, Hiro is holding Takezo's sword, and Ando is holding his sword. There might be some explanations, but it seems as if the teleportations are right after another, meaning they haven't stopped anywhere else on the way. Any comments? ( Ofer1992)

  • Actually I just watched the episode and noticed something else too. Right before Hiro appeared in front of Sylar his sword was facing forward in his hand, but then when it flashed to him in front of sylar it was in his left hand with the sword facing back toward everyone against the building!

Now that we know his name

Do we really have to change every instance of Mr. Bennet to Noah? I mean, even in things like the timeline where it would say "Noah and Claude enter Meredith Gordon's apartment". Just because we know his name, should we really change every single instance? I mean, We don't call Simone as "Simone Deveaux" every single time, because we just know her as her first name. After a year of knowing him as Mr. Bennet I think it's okay if we continue to call him that, and keep the Noah-ness at an acceptable level --Piemanmoo 01:09, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Absolutely correct. In fact, it would be weird to go back and put "Noah" under Genesis, for example, since we didn't know him as Noah back then. The main places it has to be changed is on templates like HRG and characternav so the name is bold on his page. It should also be that way on list pages (like list of articles related to the Company or any disambig pages) since those are not necessarily specific to a certain episode. But you're right, even though we know his first name now, it's still okay to put Mr. Bennet because, well, that's his name. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2007 (EDT)


If the character really rebels unless the philosophy of Primatech we should change the name. However i like that his script name is HRG(Horn rimmed glasses) and Masi Oka called the character te face of evil since that face is shown most often when the intro mention "Face of evil"

Sylar's blood in the shape of a Nue

Yep, I added it but it was removed for speculation - with good reason (Sorry!)
Just adding it here so you guys can check it out and give your opinions - Nue
Any thoughts? Megalomania 03:43, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

  • I personally think that it's a reference, considering that Hiro, being a probable descendant of Kensei and a Nakamura to ascend, stabbed Sylar. The story fits perfectly. Not to mention that Sylar's blood is shaped in a very distinct and unique way. I think it's like certain symbol occurrences (1, 2, 3, 4). Those occurrences are speculation as well, but you can tell that they actually depict the symbol. However, there is nothing that can confirm it, so...--Ice Vision 04:06, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
    • The writers pretty much debunk this theory in this interview.
      • Haha, I found that a bit amusing...--Ice Vision 12:19, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Synopsis

Sorry for the lengthy synopsis. There's so much content. I had to keep pausing it since the pace of the show picks up a lot towards the end. Anyway, feel free to shorten it and please add links. Time for some rest.--Bob 06:46, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Hey, I personally like long synopses. :) and yes, when I write a synopsis it involves a lot of pausing, too. (Admin 17:12, 23 May 2007 (EDT))
    • It's not a prob, Bob. Thanks for doing it. Last couple times I wrote it, I think people thought it was too short. I tend to be very brief, though--that's just me I guess.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:16, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Nathan tells Peter, 'You saved the cheerleader...so we could save the world.' This was ambiguous to me. Did you think he's referring to just himself, or all the other heroes that were there too? It'd make sense both ways: with her saved, it turned his heart so he wouldn't let the explosion happen, but on the other hand, maybe sense people didn't die in the explosion, the rest of the heroes can do their own thing in the future, whatever may come. Did anyone else get the ambiguity or was it straight forward to you guys?

Sylar's eyes

  • I dont know if this has been discussed elsewhere yet, but I framed through the images we saw in his eyes as he was laying on the ground after having been impaled by Hiro. It looks like images of all the people he's killed flashing by. His mom, James Walker, Charlie, etc. The images aren't that clear, but it's possible we may get a glimpse at one of the people he's killed that we haven't seen yet (assuming they went out of their way to cast someone for those parts ahead of time which doesn't sound very likely). (Admin 17:16, 23 May 2007 (EDT))
    • Yeah, I don't have Tivo or anything, but I definately saw Jackie and Virginia, then it ended with himself. I was wondering if someone was going to get those caps like they did with the precog scene.--Bob 17:25, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
      • During the show I flipped through frame by frame (much to the consternation of my less-obesessed wife). Off the top of my head, I don't remember everybody who was shown, but I remember recognizing everybody. It was basically a shortened version of what we already have in Sylar's victims#Gallery. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:29, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
        • Check here for the frame-by-frame: Category:Images from How to Stop an Exploding Man. Go down to like the 6th or 7th row and all of his precog images are there.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2007 (EDT
          • That's in the beginning of the episode. We're referring to the end, right before Sylar lays his head down after being stabbed.--Bob 02:13, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
            • You can find high resolution screencaptures over here: http://heroeseastereggs.blogspot.com --Norman 18:42, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
              • I can make out everyone except this one All the others are shots from the episodes themselves, but this one is not ringing any bells. Who the heck IS that?--Leshia 02:13, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
                • I have no idea. I looked through our pictures, and couldn't figure it out. The left side of the eye is in all of them (reflection of the plaza), so the right's the main part. No clue.--Bob 06:52, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
                • That's definitely a reverse shot of DL crouched over Linderman.--unfalln 08:47, 28 May 2007 (AEST)
                  • But Sylar wasn't even there. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 18:50, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
                    • Isaac wasn't there for Peter flying. --unfalln 16:46, 28 May 2007 (AEST)
                      • Yeah, but the flashes were all of Sylar's victims. Why would they randomly throw in some guy DL killed? Also, DL was dressed in green when he killed Linderman and there was never a shot of him crouching over the body like that.--Leshia 03:38, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
                • I can't even interpolate what those shapes are supposed to be. What are the rest of you seeing in that image? --Glue 04:28, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
                  • We have decided that it's Isaac. Check out the Sylar's eye section on the examples of precognition page.--Ice Vision 12:13, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Kensei?

Though I'm sure the guy they showed in Kyoto is Takezo Kensei, do we have any proof of this? I mean, I don't think they ever said onscreen who he is. Was it mentioned in an interview or a commentary? If not, we really shouldn't assume that the leader they showed is definitely Kensei. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:57, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

  • They talk about it being the same armor as the museum display from Godsend in the commentary, but I don't recall if they call him by name or not.--Hardvice (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2007 (EDT)


Confusing ending

This has been keeping me going since i've seen hte episode. Why doesnt nathan just fly away himself? He has the power.. (confused)

  • Maybe he did and they were just so far away we couldn't see him. I have a feeling that Nathan will be back and indeed be a congressman, while also using resources to look for Peter, who is missing, and probably with memory loss. Or do you mean why didn't Peter fly away himself? He said he couldn't do anything with Ted's power going off in him, and I think he meant that literally: he couldn't teleport, fly, freeze time, go invisible...anything, something inside him was messed up. OUChevelleSS 14:24, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
    • woops yeah .;wrong petrelli i had ^^ i ment why didnt peter just fly away :) hm yeah..that could have been an explenation, cause i doubt nathan will be back really. Even if he could fly away, he was hugging a nuclear bomb, and that cant be good ^^
      • As for why Peter didn't just fly away, Tim Kring did confirm in an interview that it was because his powers were incapacitated at the moment because of what was happening. Though he also says "you're not supposed to be thinking about that." heh. (Admin 18:58, 27 May 2007 (EDT))
      • Presumably because Peter is devoting all of his effort to keeping himself from exploding, so he has no concentration to spare on controlling his flight powers. --Ted C 14:13, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Super-Heroics

Should it be noted either here or at the Super-heroics comic that there were many parallels between the two fight sequences between Peter and Sylar (villain in comic) and how it could have been a Premonition/prophetic dream sequence?

  • Well, there's an undeniable parallel between the two. Makes the battle seem much more significant for us graphic novel lovers. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave casual watchers with much.
  • And I do think it should be noted, in both articles. DannyP 19:36, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Cool, I wish there was more discussion about this -- I am fairly interested in what others think about the parallels between them and where or even if we should mention it somewhere on the site in a Note section and in one of the prophecy pagesGuy 17:49, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Angela Petrelli's Brooch

It has been mentioned to me by a friend that the brooch that Angela Petrelli wears in the past when meeting Charles Deveaux is of Japanese origin. Can anyone confirm or deny this? If it is of Japanese origin, does anyone know the meaning? Thanks bunches!! Disney42 20:28, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

  • If that's true, then that probably means she received from Kaito.--Ice Vision 20:48, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

Displaced topic from the German Wiki: Wrong fact

Someone started a talk topic about this episode on the German HeroesWiki. As the German HeroesWiki is only a copy of the English HeroesWiki, I suggest that from now on the topic should be discussed here. Taco 04:53, 30 October 2007 (EDT) (Admin in the German HeroesWiki)

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  • the "fact" with 4 shots and 5 bullets in the air is wrong. in the one scene, where sylar freezes the bullets in front of him there is one dot which seems to be a bullet, but it isn't - Phoenix87

Peter's Dream

Was it a dream? Time Traveling? Cause if it wasn't a dream, 'Nurse' Peter would have seen Peter on the roof. Anyone a idea? -- (WaterRatj) 20:38, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Climax = The Iron Giant ?

Did anyone think about The Iron Giant when watching this episode? Innocent people helpless against nuclear bomb. Someone flies and destroys the bomb in midair, presumably killing himself (until after the credits). Someone says "let's go home." Anyone? No? Just me. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 11:07, 3 June 2010 (EDT)