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Article Name Change

Have they ever called it a "nuclear" explosion on the show? ... In light of tonight's episode, and Peter's revelation that he is the explosion, I nominate that we change the name of this article to simply the "Explosion", since there is nothing nuclear about it. Thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:36, 4 December 2006 (EST)

  • The have used the word "bomb" to describe it. However, I do propose a change now, as opposed to later when we have more articles to fix. ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 23:50, 4 December 2006 (EST)
  • Perhaps just "The Explosion" would be sufficient. --Ted C 17:16, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Qualify Statements

I think there are some dubious statements in the article. They treat Peter's dream as an exact prophecy, when it might be something more symbolic than literal. I'm going to tone down the language a bit. --Ted C 17:15, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Good call, I was thinking the same thing. At this point we should just treat it as a vision which could be more symbolic than literal as you said. (Admin 17:17, 5 December 2006 (EST))

New lead text

"Destined to occur" makes it sound as if it's inevitable. We don't really know that it is.--Hardvice (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Time of Explosion

I was just reading on Wikipedia (scroll down to "Don't Look Back") that the explosion will take place at 11:52. Where does that info come from? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:42, 27 January 2007 (EST)

  • I'm guessing Hiro's watch. I'd have to check. That said, since Hiro's watch is displaying the wrong date, I have no idea why they think it would be displaying the correct time. You'd have to assume he jumped exactly five weeks into the future, to the minute, and that seems an uncharacteristically sloppy assumption for Wikipedia.--Hardvice (talk) 10:58, 27 January 2007 (EST)
    • I've also heard talk (can't remember where) that Peter's watch (in his vision) displays a time. Could that be it? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:06, 27 January 2007 (EST)
      • Could be. But again, that relies on the fallacy that Peter's vision of the explosion necessarily equals the explosion. In either case, I think we're better off not speculating as to the time (unless maybe the NYPD detective's watch is visible. Or Ando's clock, which would be on Tokyo time.)--Hardvice (talk) 11:33, 27 January 2007 (EST)
  • If it is Hiro's watch, then not only would you have to make an assumption about his time travel landing him at the same time of day as his departure, but you'd also have to account for the time change between Tokyo and EST. But it's also possible that there's a clock visible somewhere in the police station. Unfortunately, I can only access the recent episodes on NBC. Does anyone know if the earlier ones can still be seen online somewhere?--E rowe 11:54, 27 January 2007 (EST)
    • They question him at Isaac's apartment, not the police station (the paintings are still visible in the background). But yeah, it's worth a rewatch. I've got the old episodes still.--Hardvice (talk) 11:56, 27 January 2007 (EST)
      • Yup. It's the time on Hiro's watch. *rolleyes* Oh, Wikipedia...--Hardvice (talk) 11:57, 27 January 2007 (EST)
        • Is it clearly 11:52? They might have thrown in a subtle reference to seven minutes to midnight if it's 11:53.
          • It's digital, but I guess it's probably a bit before the explosion ... not a minute, but enough for the minute to change, I guess.--Hardvice (talk) 12:32, 27 January 2007 (EST)
          • When Hiro jumps back to Japan after the explosion the clock in the subway reads 11:53. In the seconds before he leaps the time on that clock is rapidly changing--it looks like it starts at 11:48, but that might be showing the numbers after they've already started rolling. This only verifies that Hiro's watch reads the Japanese time. An interesting corollary from these points might be that Hiro's watch didn't tick at all for the whole time he was in future New York (much more than 4 minutes right?). On the other hand, that might be reading too much into incidental details.
            • It's irrelevant what his watch reads, because it's clearly incorrect in the aspect of the "present". His watch reads "October Two", when in actuality it's 8 Nov. Therefore his watch is reading his perspective, which would be in the "past" (2 Oct). So, you can't deduce from what his watch reads that it is the time in the "present".--Bob 20:38, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

New video

So Richard Drucker's video makes it seem that right before the explosion, Nathan falls. He's close enough to the blast that he would still be pretty badly effected, which explains the Mel Gibson lookalike. Then it seems that Peter (who has presumably regenerated) flies in and saves Nathan. Not like I wasn't already excited for Monday's episode, but now I'm really psyched. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:46, 8 November 2007 (EST)

  • Yea, I know. Definitely the best part of the 360 experience thus far. Even the company records were nice, but nothing new. This is just awesome.--Bob (talk) 07:51, 8 November 2007 (EST)
  • Yeah, even if he's far enough away before the actual blast, I would assume that holding onto Peter while he was emitting that much radiation had already taken it's toll on Nathan. That's probably what caused him to fall in the first place, he was suffering badly from the radiation poisoning, used the last bits of energy to push Peter up and away and then fell right before Peter exploded. Then Peter recovered and saved Nathan from the drop. Of course, while this all explains Nathan's muto-face, it does leave us all wondering how he managed to "get better" from that kind of damage. I don't think Peter was ever close enough to Linderman to get his healing power, so I wonder who else out there might have that... And yes, nice touch that they released the video of the explosion on the anniversary of said explosion. --Maelwys 16:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)
  • Would it be okay if I posted a link to a copy of Drucker's video that someone uploaded on YouTube? The embeded video on Hana's website causes my web browser (IE6) to crash... --Simply Agrestic 16:12, 14 November 2007 (EST)
    • Sure, Simply Agrestic, you can add a link to the "external links" section of this article. Maelwys, Nathan healed because Adam injected his blood into Nathan's IV.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:24, 14 November 2007 (EST)
      • Well sure, we know that now. My question was asked before we saw that episode though, thanks. ;-) --Maelwys 07:09, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Sylar - why?

  • I've been thinking about this today; from Sylar's actions at the end of Landslide (when he conjures up the balls of radiation in his hand), it is assumed that Sylar wanted to cause the explosion. My question is, why? What motives did he have for blowing up NYC? And, also, carrying on from this, how did Hiro killing Sylar make any difference, when Peter was the exploding man? Admittedly, it was because Isaac prophesised it, but, why?--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:06, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Unstoppable???

Since the end of season 1 of Heroes, i've wondered if they actually did stop the bomb that was supposed to go off. Im just going to throw this out there but what if that wasnt the bomb they were supposed to stop? What if there is another bomb that is supposed to blow up New York, or wherever else? We know Claire(Future) had moved many places over the years in the future, saying she moved from Texas to California,etc., so far she has moved to California and there are still possibilities for them to move again to...Oregon, i think it was? Also, Nathan the inagruation of his, it couldve been his inagruation of his presidency. Sylar is now invincible (Butterfly Effect) so nothing has really changed. So... what do you think???? - Heroics

  • Well, this is just speculation, but to me it looks like the current season has a big explosion from Kaito's formula that splits open the Earth. It's not just about NYC this time.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:40, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Split

In light of the latest painting by Matt, I suggest renaming this article as New York explosion and making a new one for the Washington explosion. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:08, 24 February 2009 (EST)

  • Good call. We should also probably have a Costa Verde Explosion too...so that all three 'potential' nuclear explosions are differentiated. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/24/2009 10:14 (EST)
    • I'll add the tag. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:48, 24 February 2009 (EST)
      • I agree with making separate articles for the New York explosion and Costa Verde, but not yet for the Washington explosion because it is only a prophesy ATM.--Steelymcbeam 02:41, 25 February 2009 (EST)
  • Since the prophecy never came true and there never was an explosion in DC, I think we're fine with leaving this page as is for now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:28, 25 March 2009 (EDT)