Talk:Hana's messages

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Setup

I figured it would make more sense to archive these in one place rather than having the text of the messages take up half of each Heroes 360 article. There are a lot missing still, particularly text messages (I seem to get about every third one). As it becomes more complete, we can probably change the other articles to direct here instead of giving the full text of each message (i.e. rather than "On March 13, Hana sent the following email:", have "On March 13, Hana sent an email directing players to..."). That should improve the readability of the other articles and make adding new messages less of a chore.

It also needs a lead image. Maybe we can doctor up a cellphone promotional shot with one of the messages or something. Otherwise, I'm stumped.--Hardvice (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

  • That sounds like a fine idea for a lead image--unless she sends a message with a graphic or something (which I doubt). — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
  • The lead image looks better than I imagined it. Nice. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

New message

"A new Heroes Graphic Novel is now up on NBC.com. Discover the backstory of The Haitian in Part One of this telling Four Part event.

Click here to check it out. " (here being the link to the comic) --Insomnia 05:03, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Sorry, that'll teach me to post without sleep, that is an email I got from wireless@samantha48616e61.com --Insomnia 18:34, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Is there a new August message from Hana?

  • A user on IMDb mentioned that there's a new e-mail out from Hana. No one else seems to have gotten it yet. Hmm.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:43, 6 August 2007 (EDT)
    • Nevermind, I just found it on her website. Rumblings in Central America? Sounds like a prelude to the Maya and Alejandro story...--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

Page getting long

The page is pretty long, and I doubt it's going to stop growing any time soon. Do we have a natural breakoff point like we did for Hana's website. August 20, 2007 (Perhaps first of Season Two)? Maybe we could break it off into annual/semi-annual sub-pages. Ideas? -- Lulu (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2007 (EST)

  • Actually, I think August 6, 2007, should begin Season Two, same as with Hana's website.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:20, 27 December 2007 (EST)
  • The 6th links to both the Season 1 archive and the main page, but I think it's a fine split. I'd like to hear some more input before I go ahead and do it, though. -- Lulu (talk) 19:26, 27 December 2007 (EST)
    • I'd still like to do this, but my non-understanding with the TOC prevents me. -- Lulu (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2008 (EST)
      • Just copy the entire TOC and the table to a new article (Hana's messages/Season One), then trim off the entries after. The TOC is just a list of anchor links that point to hidden span tags within the table.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2008 (EST)
        • Is there a way to link to each individual message? --Heroes360 (talk) 21:26, 7 January 2008 (EST)
          • Yes, by adding extra span tags within the table. But I think it's enough to link each month.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:50, 7 January 2008 (EST)
            • Oh, okay. I asked so as to make my list a little easier to manage. Just a personal thing though. It's cool.--Heroes360 (talk) 21:59, 7 January 2008 (EST)
              • I like your list, and I refer to it every once in awhile. I think adding span tags wouldn't be a bad idea, but I wouldn't change the actual output of the page. If we start changing the TOC, it will become too bloated. But if you want to add span tags for jumps from your page, I personally don't see a problem with it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:03, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Primatech Helix

Was that always a red symbol when you "curse" over it?!--Juba (talk) 03:42, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

  • I'm not sure, but that does sound new.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:44, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
    • It has done that at least sense 2/4/07. -Lөvөl 11:58, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
      • Right, found it on Primatechpaper.com: it appeared from the moment Hana was hacking the page... --Juba 06:23, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Who is fake "Hana"?

Remember Bob got the golden Goose, who pretended to be Richard Drucker... and his PC...? And then again, he is the one that destroyed the mainframe. --Juba 09:39, 12 March 2008 (EDT)talk 10:45, 11 March (CET)

PS

I'm assuming the "PS" emphasized in the last email and text message reference the sender. The only "PS" we have listed on Heroes Wiki that I can find is Paul E. Sylar. Somehow I doubt it's him. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:21, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

  • Possibly. It could be a PS, as in a postscript, meaning there might be some sort of hidden message. -- Lulu (talk) 23:34, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
    • If there is a hidden message, perhaps PS means "previous submission" so maybe it refers to the previous text message "Hana n Druckr r gon 4 good. but Ive discvred HG contacts so ull be hearing frm me now"?--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
    • The missing characters from that message: adeaeeoesyoo or adeaeeforoesyoo--not sure if that helps...--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
      • After further consideration, I'm thinking this was probably just a reference to Ryan C.'s dream submission being related to today's graphic novel. Not sure it helps identify the sender.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:27, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

Also, does anyone know what sapan is? -- Lulu (talk) 23:34, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

  • Sapan is Turkish for "catapult". But it seems like a username or something. --Ice Vision (talk) 23:55, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
  • Ben Franklin retired from printing in 1748, when he was 42. That means PS is 41. How many times does Takezo Kensei love? He had ten brides. If we count Yaeko, that's eleven. If we count the "new bride", that's twelve. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:58, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
    • 2008-41=1967. On Heroes Wiki, nobody's infobox lists 41 as an age. Likewise, nobody is listed as being born in 1967. However, Nathan was about a year old in November 1968, which would make him about 41 years old. For what it's worth, his last name also begins with a P. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:05, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
    • For what it's worth, we've estimated Adam Monroe as not aging after turning 42; so based on the second riddle, having the messenger be his "twelfth" love (11th wife) makes more sense to me.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:28, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
      • I think the question about Monroe with and the Franklin reference means Evan. Therequiembellishere 09:23, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
        • As much as I would like for it to be Evan, I would be surprised if it was him. However, I am getting to like another new theory--that the second riddle is a trick question: Adam Monroe has loved many under various names, but only one as Takezo Kensei. Thus, the combined answers to the riddle form 41-1 or 411, the number for information in the United States.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:22, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
          • Or, considering his ability, 411 could be Evan's age. ;-D Therequiembellishere 15:33, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
            • Nah, I think it's clear that 41 is the age of the person being discussed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:38, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
              • some quick math: 41 - 1 = 40, 41 - 12 = 29, 41 + 12 = 53, 41 * 12 = 492, 41/12 = 3.416666(66 repeating), 41^12 = 2.2563.....*10^19. Probably useless, but you never know. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
                • So, who is this person, anyone know?--The Empath 22:41, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
                  • I added all the letters together and got PERSONS, so current my theory as to the answer to the final riddle is that there is more than one person who is messaging us now; one who is 41 and another who is 12.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:26, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
                    • How old is S.P. (Simon Petrelli)?
                      • Simon's age is never said, but he's in elementary school and looks to me to be somewhere between 8 and 12. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:34, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Definitely not, but Micah then. Therequiembellishere 21:55, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Identity revealed?

  • So does anyone else feel that at the end of On the Lam, Brian is trying to say that he is the person behind Hana's new messages??? I went to www.brianundaunted.imeem.com and he's not posted any new messages there, so I'm thinking the messages are to us. So this could mean Brian's last name is the answer to the final riddle--"Persons"? Hmm...I wouldn't have taken him for being 41, but I guess it's possible...--MiamiVolts (talk) 05:26, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
    • Ah, the message was simply delayed in being posted to the site. I still think Brian could still be the messenger. The timing of his "coming out" fits with this graphic novel, and the evolutions ARG has been closely tied in with the graphic novels as of late. Also, Brian created the Corinthian's website, so he could still have access to it and have discovered Hana, Micah and Drucker's conversation. He might also still have security permissions to access the Company's computer system and have put a few things together that way. Finally, he could be just playing dumb on his blog so the Company doesn't come after him. I'm assuming we'll hear more from the messenger, eventually.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
      • Sounds like a viable theory. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:33, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
      • I think the most recent update pokes holes in that theory, since we're looking for a name 8 characters long or something like that. --PeterDawson 17:17, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
        • I think the last riddle is for only one letter--"O", so only 7 letters in that case. Also, we never did learn Brian's real last name--it could be "Persons" for all we know.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:13, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
  • Is it me or did Takezo Kensei only have one love? And that was the princess. --DocM 07:30, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
    • I agree Takezo Kensei the legend had only one love, but the numbers don't play a part in the riddle.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:02, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
      • Yeah, I posted that comment in the wrong section. It was meant to be in the "PS" one. Sorry about that. --DocM 13:06, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
        • Did anyone get a new email linking you to activating evolution and saying that this persons name is in the doctors names (given in the link)?--The Empath 19:31, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
          • Yeah, it's already posted on 9th wonders!, and it says that Brian knows nothing, not to listen to him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
  • The name of Dr. Wayne Brody is changed to Wayne Grody. So we have a new letter "G". I could not find any other change.--Rvsdl 21:49, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
    • Or is the letter "B"? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
      • My theory's not looking good. D: --NellaBishop 22:34, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
        • You are right Ryan I found Brody in a comment in the pages source. The letter is "B" Grody is the correct name. By the way, I have a question. I understand that two letters within one word is "O", but what does "three letters apart" mean?--Rvsdl 04:36, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
          • I think the statement should be taken as a whole to mean three letters in between the same letter on both sides (i.e. O _ _ _ O).--MiamiVolts (talk) 08:04, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
            • Two letters within the phrase "one word": the two o's are three letters apart. Namely, the two o's have an n, an e, and a w between them. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:20, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

Artcle on the new person?

Would it or would it not be prudent to write an article on this new person?--SacValleyDweller (talk) 17:26, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

  • I wouldn't mind having one now, though I could understand if anyone else thought it was a little early.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:33, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
  • Personally, I'd rather wait until we know some more information. -- Lulu (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
    • I agree, I'd rather wait until we get a bit more. I'm thinking his/her initials are PS, but there's a pretty strong argument that that's just the beginning of a new password or something. I'm not personally opposed to an article, but I'd prefer to wait until we see a bit more so we stay away from an article that would basically be a theory article. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:04, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
      • Yep, let's wait. In all likelihood, we already have the article if it's someone like Traveler or his girlfriend. Therequiembellishere 23:21, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
        • Micah and Matt seem like the obvious choices for me, but it will probably be someone who's never been on the actual show. --PeterDawson 11:24, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

Love

I think when the mystery person says "How many times does Takezo Kensei love?", he/she is refering to the number of times the word "love" (in any form: loved, loving etc.) appears on Kensei's page at Yamagoto. All of the answers to the other riddles have been on the page that it linked to (eg. Franklin's age), so it would make sense that the answer to the Kensei problem would be on his page.

P.S I think that love is on there five times, will have to check though. --Thetobiasempire 03:12, 26 March 2008 (EDT)