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Request

I request a formatting to allow full Wikipedia style infoboxes and tables. --Gaterion 20:29, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

How's it look now? Added the Wikipedia infobox and wikitable CSS. (Admin 00:00, 18 October 2006 (EDT))
  • Is this just a reprint of the WP article? Do we still need it? Its redlinks are showing up as needed pages.--Hardvice 17:17, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
    • I believe it was originally taken from Wikipedia by the original contributor, yes. Since we're striving for original content I'd be in favor of eliminating it and recreating a new version here if we need one at some point in the future. I believe the desired goal was to be able to clean up the Main Page and keep it from getting too long by moving the character lists deeper into the wiki. If we wind up with too much on the Main Page at some point then I'd suggest that's when we start optimizing it for space, but until then I think it's ok. Will leave [[Heroes]] around for a little while to solicit any more opinions on its deletion before I actually delete it. (Admin 17:28, 24 October 2006 (EDT))
      • Cool. I was able to wipe p most of its redlinks with redirects, many of which we probably needed anyway.  :)--Hardvice 17:30, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
        • I'm seriously up for deleting this page. It holds no purpose now that almost every piece on information on it is talked about more indepth on their own separate pages. Maybe we should still keep a [[Heroes]] around to explain a brief overview of the series but certainly not this dated copy of the Wikipedia page. --Sidney 01:39, 26 October 2006 (EDT)
          • Talk about resurrecting a discussion from the past! :) I think we need a Heroes article again to provide a description of the show itself. We have all this material on everything that has happened in Heroes, but no high-level article on Heroes itself. We've got every other piece of info people would like to know about the show except for an in-depth explanation of the show itself. (Admin 16:33, 16 April 2007 (EDT))
            • I very much agree. I was actually just thinking about that the other day and was going to write something, but got sidetracked. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:51, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
              • I just added some Heroes links on lostpedia but we didn't have a page for Heroes so I had to link to the one on wikipedia. -Lөvөl 18:06, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
                • Was it you that added the links on Isaac of Uluru? It was the one Wikipedia link on that page that convinced me that we need a Heroes page of our own again. (Admin 18:25, 16 April 2007 (EDT))
                  • That was indeed Level who gave us some love over on lostpedia (and fixed Issac's name, too). I've seen some other sites that have done similar things. I'm all in favor of a a Heroes page. Soon enough, soon enough. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:07, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Suggested additions

Checklist of some things we can do to improve this article:

  • Expand description of Heroes show
  • Expand Season 1 description
  • Incorporate info from Broadcasts article, but rewrite it so it's original content.
  • Heroes 360 info (approx. date it started, brief description of what it is, link to Heroes 360.
    • Okay, I've got not so much a checklist, but some ideas:
  • General overview of the graphic novels
  • Media quotes about Heroes
  • I wouldn't mind seeing a link to awards
  • A mention of the art auctions for the Pediatric Epilepsy Project
  • One of the things for which I'm constantly searching is ratings. Ultimately, Nielsen's site only gives the top 10 each week. Entertainment Weekly often prints the top 20, but they're inconsistent (sometimes they do primetime, sometimes cable, sometimes just daytime, etc.) I would love if somebody could find info about viewership and ratings
  • And while I'm on the subject of viewers, I'm really curious as to the amount of downloads each GN gets, or how many hits http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/ gets.
  • Production is more for behind-the-scenes articles. This will in part be about the content of the show. It could be both Heroes and Production.--Hardvice (talk) 00:02, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
  • I wouldn't mind it in both categories ... though I don't think it necessarily needs to go in either portal. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:08, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

TOCRIGHT?

  • Although I like the characters sidebar, it's a bit out-of-date, and now that this article is huge, the TOC is creating massive whitespace. I'd suggest we axe the characters sidebar (or update it and work it into a page element instead of a sidebar) and just go with TOCRIGHT to cut down on the whitespace.--Hardvice (talk) 17:15, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
    • I'm not married to it, but I do like the character bar. It's nice to have some color and graphics on an otherwise text-laden page. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
      • I agree completely, hence my hesitation to axe it. But there's gotta be a way to work in that info and some colour without creating vast chunks of whitespace in an already enormous article. It certainly does need a toc, though.--Hardvice (talk) 19:29, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
        • Just added the tocright and it looks much better, imho. Anyone mind if we replace Isaac and Simone with Alejandro and Maya on the character bar? I don't think it needs to be axed, just updated.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:48, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
          • TOC looks good. Maya, Ando, and Sylar should be added since they're main characters. Alejandro is not. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
            • Ok, but now that Maya hasn't been around for a while, should she still be here? --Isaac Mendez 12:36, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
              • Despite Maya's absence, Dania Ramirez is still officially a principal cast member for Season Three. We don't know who the Season Four principal actors are yet. When we do, we will update the list of characters. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

Does anyone expect Hugh Laurie coming to the show?

I do. Oh yeah I do. I think he would do nice as Samson Gray, but John Glover did it great anyway. You see, House M.D. had many actors from Heroes who guest starred: Greg Grunberg, Matthew John Armstrong, Jayma Mays, Nicholas D'Agosto, Thomas Dekker, that guy who portrayed the frozen and shattered reporter... How about Hugh Laurie visiting Heroes?) -- Altes 09:07, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't think Hugh will be coming to Heroes anytime soon, he makes too much success (and money) with House to leave the show. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:01, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Brave New World

Talk about A Brave New World being the series finale got me thinking. What happens to the wiki when they cancel the show? --Boycool42 08:19, 24 January 2010

Season Four Character Histories

When are we going to make the character history pages for season four? --Boycool42 10:50, 13 February 2010 (EST)

  • After Season Four "officially" ends -- ie. at the end of the summer hiatus. --Radicell 10:54, 13 February 2010 (EST)
    • Actually, I think someone already put in a full Season 4 summary above the episode infos on Peter's page. I don't know what the policy on it is, but you may want to check it out. --mc_hammark 10:56, 13 February 2010 (EST)
      • Thanks for notifying me. --Radicell 11:04, 13 February 2010 (EST)
        • I saw that too which is why I was confused. (Thanks MC hammark for directing me here) And last season they seemed to be made like right after the finale so I didn't know. But when it officially ends is great because last time we edited the season pages a bunch because of the new GNs/Istories. Thanks for clarifying! ~~IHHTalk 11:38, 13 February 2010 (EST)
          • Right. There is no official policy, but we typically wait until closer to the end of the summer since we usually put graphic novel summaries from the summer in the previous season (so GNs released in spring and summer 2010 will be part of Season Four). Also, please note that character who have only appeared in Season Four (like Samuel or Lydia) should not be archived. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2010 (EST)
            • But, Maya has a page for season three, even though she was only in seven episodes. Same for Danko, and that was his first season. Samuel was in all 19 of this season. --Boycool42 12:34, 14 February 2010 (EST)
              • Ok, I think because she was still a main character (though I think many fans debate that) she gets a full season history page. Also, characters who are in one season, and have a returning season (like Eric Doyle) have their previous seasons archived. But if it's just a few episodes they're in one season then another few in another season, I don't think we'd make a summary, like for Mira. --mc_hammark 15:31, 14 February 2010 (EST)
                • So then Samuel should have a season summary page too. Also, Maya was a main character for season two, so by that logic she should have a season summary for season two, both because she ws a main character and because she appeared in the season following it. Not to mention she was in 8 out of the 11 season two episodes...

                  On another note, I recall RGS saying that we should set a limit on how many subsections warant a summary history. I believe we agreed if a character had over 22 subsections a summary would be fine. And Lydia has 36.....--Skullman1392 16:04, 14 February 2010 (EST)

                • Well I do agree that if they are only in one season, they shouldn't have a summary page. However, Tracy was made one at the end of last season without knowing if she was in the next or not. Lydia I believe needs one because she has over 36 (because the iStories count too). But that is not up to me. ~~IHHTalk 19:19, 14 February 2010 (EST)
                  • Maya shouldn't have an archive page for her Season Three history. I deleted it previously (in September) and I'll take care of deleting that page again. I didn't realize it was recreated--thanks for bringing it to my attention. (Her full page will only have 20 episode/GN listings, which is not too many.) Ditto Danko, whose archive page was also previously deleted, but recreated by somebody. (His page will have 24 subsections.) Being a main character doesn't have anything to do with having an archived page or not. There is no official policy on how many sections is the "breaking point", but I believe we came up with a soft guideline of 20 to 25. Danko's pushing that, so I could see the rationalization for an archive page...but I would wait until we go past that point. And since Danko's dead (and human), there's not a whole lot of promise that he'll make a return. However, this is Heroes, and anything is possible--so if he does, an archive page could definitely be made for him. As for Lydia, we either have an archive page with 36 sections and an empty main page, or we have a main page with 36 sections. So until she appears in another episode or has a significant mention in another graphic novel or something in Season Five, we should leave her page alone. Archiving her page would defeat the purpose, and wouldn't do any good. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:23, 14 February 2010 (EST)
                    • Ryan, I'm sorry but I was the one who made both of those pages. You have to keep in mind that iStories count as headings too which makes the page long. In fact if you count them, Danko has 34. Maya has 23. Granted I can see why Maya wouldn't be counted but I strongly believe that Danko should have one. ~~IHHTalk 21:00, 14 February 2010 (EST)
  • I believe that these characters should have history pages, mainly because they are all likely to reappear at one point in some form:

Peter, Hiro, Claire, Noah, Tracy, Ando, Angela, Sylar, Mohinder, Samuel, Emma, Lauren Gilmore, Edgar, Eli, Lydia, Eric Doyle, Gretchen, Matt, Janice, René --William Strauss 00:14, 15 February 2010 (EST)

    • We all know that the inevitable will eventually happen, and Heroes will finish at some point. Do you think that then we should create summaries for those characters? --mc_hammark 09:04, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Not sure where to put this

How do you upload pictures to the wiki?--Boycool42 16:18, 23 February 2010 (EST)

  • On the left hand side there is a toolbox. Click the "upload file" button. It'll take you to a new page and ask you to choose an image to upload. If it's for use on the wiki then make sure it's one of the standard sizes. If it's for your userpage etc. then remember to put [[Category:User Images]] in the comments bit. For all images, remember to put the source. --mc_hammark 16:30, 23 February 2010 (EST)

A Pattern I'm Noticing

Whenever a character mentions something, it happens two seasons later.

Examples:

--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 10:46, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Oh, and the most obvious:

--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 10:58, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

    • HAHAHAHA, I've never noticed that before. Very cool. --Ricard Desi 11:21, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
      • We can probably predict the major plot points of the rest of the show.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 11:43, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

To be continued...

Are there any episodes other than The Second Coming, Orientation, and Upon This Rock that don't end with "To be continued..." ? --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 17:07, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

HEROES CANCELED!

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 18:00, 14 May 2010 (EDT)

  • I'm not sure how trustworthy that source is. From the way I understand it NBC wasn't suppose to announce their schedule until the 16th or 17th.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 17:54, 14 May 2010 (EDT)

EDIT:Forget that. I found another source which only adds more credibility. Eh, here's hoping that movie idea will fall through.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 17:58, 14 May 2010 (EDT)

User:Boycool42/Villains

Is it just me, or do the villains progressively get more friendly?--Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 19:09, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

  • LOL, but Nathan wasn't a villain, he was just misunderstood. Green.gif AltesUTC CH 04:08, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

Heroes will be back?

[1] Green.gif AltesUTC CH 04:40, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

Languages

What languages were spoken on Heroes? This is what I've gathered:

  • English (with Southern, New England, Midwest, African, Dominican, German, Russian, Japanese, Haitian/French, and of course English accents)
  • Japanese (with Japanese and American accents)
  • French (with Haitian and American accents)
  • Spanish (with Dominican, Mexican, and American accents)
  • Russian/Ukrainian (?) (with Russian and American accents)
  • American Sign Language

--Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 15:26, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

Death count

How many characters have died each volume? Which one had the least deaths? Green.gif AltesUTC CH 05:39, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

  • This is the best I can do.
Volume One - Zane, Dale, Eden, Jackie, Chandra, Linderman's thugs (2 of them), Simone, Charles, Issac, Thompson, Ted, Linderman
Volume Two - Kaito, Candice/Betty, Noah (Revived), D.L, Nikki, Alejandro, Ricky
Volume Three - Bob, Jesse, Knox, Scott, Adam, Flint, Meredith, Elle, Usutu, Arthur, Maury, Daphne, Dr. Livitz,
Volume Four - Nathan, Gabriel's mother
Volume Five - Danko, Lydia, Nathan, Mohinder (Different time-line), Annie

So it seem like Volume 4 had the least deaths and Volume 1 had the most. Hope that helps :) --Leckie -- Talk 09:30, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

Renewal

Heroes just got confirmed for another season!!!! [2] --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 21:27, 1 April 2012 (EDT)

Reborn

Looks like Heroes will get a reborn next year as miniseries called Heroes: Reborn, the teaser went on air during the Olympics comercials at NBC. Some sources are [[3]] and this [[4]] at NBC's youtube channel. --Gabrielense 22:51, 22 February 2014 (EST)

  • YES! It's official, and it's very exciting! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:34, 22 February 2014 (EST)
    • Glad to see I'm not the only one picked up on it. Can't believe I still remember my password. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 00:27, 23 February 2014 (EST)
      • Time to start breaking out the ol' wiki editing skills! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:32, 23 February 2014 (EST)
        • Oh, I can't wait to continue Theorizing . . . -- Mike the Man-child!
          • Don't miss the theories at all. Specially the really out there derp ones on Mr. Muggles, Carlos Mendez, Victoria Pratt, etc... Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:14, 23 February 2014 (EST)
            • Hi guys. This is really an amazing feeling. I simply can't wait for our little community on here to thrive once again. It's been too long... I almost feel weird typing out four tildes in a row! Radicell 18:59, 24 February 2014 (EST)
              • I hear ya! I think I've discussed Heroes more on Facebook in the past few days than I have in 2006-2010! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:04, 25 February 2014 (EST)