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Hurry up new GN pic for Main Page promo

Man, that picture of Ugly Betty starring you down on the main page needs to hurry up and go! Yuucchhh!!! I'd much rather see Jason Badower's drawings of Hana from (The Death of Hana Gitelman, Part 1 or 2) !! --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 06/29/2007 15:46 (EST)

  • And that's only Part 1! Let's hope she turns into her future form quickly in Part 2! (Admin 15:49, 29 June 2007 (EDT))
    • In Part 2 there won't be any hints of her future form, but she will change her look quite a bit. Just look for her to try to fit in a bit. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:49, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

possible look change?

Dunno where to discuss this or how much sense It'll make but here goes: I think This site needs to have a look that is significantly different than the default carbon-copy-of-Wikipedia look. reasons: 1) Aside from the comic book cover logo, the site looks exactly like Wikipedia. I recreationally browse both here and there, and at times forget where I am at because of the same look for both sites. I realize this when I go to look up something, say lemons, and find no articles here on lemons. If it were similar to, say Memory Alpha, in that it does not look like Wikipedia with a logo change, this might be avoided. 2) It looks to sterile for a cool show such as Heroes. Am I right or is it just me?--SacValleyDweller 17:49, 2 September 2007 (EDT)

  • Last I heard, Admin is still open to add/reviewing new skins, that's what really controls the layout. When I checked it out before, it looked a bit complicated to make one, and Admin himself has to add it (you have to e-mail the file to him, I think). That said, there are already several skins in the options. You can change what skin you use by changing your preferences.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
    • Ok, how do you make a skin for this and what can be done to make it the default for everyone?--SacValleyDweller 18:36, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
      • You can read the main help on skins at Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Skin and examples of other skins at Wikipedia:Meta:Gallery_of_user_styles. That should get you started.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:49, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
        • Personally, I like the skin we have, and wouldn't want a different one to be my default. However, I think it'd be cool if somebody wanted to do a test to redesign the main page to look a little more like a comic book. Maybe take a cue from the inside of the new DVD with panels that overlap, perhaps add some text bubbles. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Yes, I'm still open to a new default skin or changing the default colors of the current skin somewhat. Regardless I'd make sure the old unchanged skin was still available for selection. It's a bit of work to create a new skin, so what I'd suggest is if someone's skilled at it they come up with some conceptual drawings of what the new skin would look like and present them here for feedback prior to actually implementing the skin. (Admin 20:18, 2 September 2007 (EDT))
    • I'm not too familiar with the coding, but I'll help with whatever needs to be done (I'll just have to look at some examples done to get a feel for it). So if someone does have an idea, I'll be more than willing to help knock out some code for it. I used to do a lot of HTML coding in high school.--Bob 20:41, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Wikipedia:Meta:Gallery_of_user_styles has some good examples of what can be done... the internal coding looks to be in PHP language. I've done some PHP coding but I'm not good at it yet.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:43, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
        • I had a PHP class last semester, so I can use my text to help out with that (I got pretty good towards the end of the class).--Bob 22:55, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
        • Taking a look at that link, this one looks prety good, something like that would look nice, perhapse with a color like the 9thwonders.com background--SacValleyDweller 01:24, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
  • What I did to tell the difference is download this thing called Stylish, and then got a new userstyle for Wikipedia. As far as I know, however, it only works on Firefox. Its a pretty good short-term solution. As for a new look, I'm pretty good with graphics, so if you guys want a new logo or anything like that, leave me a post on my page or something. I'd love to help out. --Avenger 05:11, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

I think this is a really good idea, maybe we should start work on a new skin which we could possibly launch as a default when Heroes premieres in September. Oh, by the way I can help out with the css and even javascript! But as this discussion is 9 months old I presume people have lost enthusiasm over the idea.-- Hiro  talk  contribs  13:34, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

  • I don't think there's a loss of enthusiasm, but instead just no one was available with the skill or time to modify the MediaWiki skin. There's also a bit of maintenance since the skin would pretty much have to be updated for each MediaWiki release that comes out. So there would be a decent amount of work involved, but if someone's willing to whip up a complete skin that people like and will also maintain it, I'd be happy to make it available and hopefully even the default. (Admin 13:40, 15 July 2008 (EDT))
  • There is also a recent discussion about this here. -Lөvөl 13:44, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Well I would be useful over scripting, however as for the actual design I would be useless. So if someone could come up with a rough idea of a design that everyone likes then we can start actually making it.-- Hiro  talk  contribs  18:05, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

Menus

Can I make a suggestion that you edit and update the menu on the left hand side to something that is much more functional for a site like this. Using the default one that comes with MediaWiki is missing out on a lot of things that you can make easier for people to get around this site. You edit the menu at MediaWiki:Sidebar‎. For details on how the coding etc works, see Manual:Interface/Sidebar Look at the MediaWiki site for an example of how it can be improved. --Dr DBW 00:20, 26 November 2007 (EST)

  • We have updated it from the default. Do you have an suggestions for new items?--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:35, 26 November 2007 (EST)
Break it up into a couple of sections / menus, with the first being navigation, with the usual main links, then one or two more. I am not fully up to speed on how this wiki is "structured". Looking at Portal:Portals, you could probably work something around that. For the navigation menu, I would suggest a browse link, which leads to the top level / root category. --Dr DBW 19:15, 26 November 2007 (EST)
Actually, I will put some suggestions on the MediaWiki talk:Sidebar‎ page. --Dr DBW 19:16, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Season Two Characters

  • Aren't Takezo (David Anders) and Monica (Dana Davis) going to be 3 of the two new main characters, along with Maya? Theres Sylar, Ando, MAya, Monica and Kensai. Right? Or am i wrong. o.O So confused... lol. P.S. MAth B sucks! Jason Garrick 15:46, 30 September 2007 (EDT)
    • David Anders was not credited with the Principal Cast in Four Months Later. Dana Davis hasn't appeared yet, and neither has Sylar, so we have no actual confirmation about whether they are "officially" regulars or not.--Hardvice (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

appearance in different browsers

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Something curious I noticed today about the difference in appearance of the main page in Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. We are square in IE 7, but well rounded in Firefox. :) --SacValleyDweller 19:25, 8 October 2007 (EDT)

  • It's a problem we're working on. See here and here to read a little bit of our disjointed discussion about the issue. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:35, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
    • I don't believe thats a problem. Its just the different rendering software used in Firefox. Firefox tends to make alot of graphical changes to pages. So yeah, thats not a site problem. Just a feature of The Fox.--Avenger 05:11, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
    • The fix ends up being more trouble than it's worth for something so minor as rounded corners. I'm just glad that's essentially the extent that IE7 mangles the site. If anyone using IE7 wants the rounded corners, there's a simple solution... and links to that simple solution all the way at the bottom of this page. (Admin 09:20, 22 October 2007 (EDT))

Newest articles special page?

I like seeing the number of articles on our little site grow, but I would like to see the newest ones that qualify as content. Is there any way to see that, or any work on making that possible, similar to as seen on is on Wikipedia?--SacValleyDweller 01:25, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

  • Special:newpages. Is that what you're looking for? I find it to be really nice because I can specify the namespace. For instance, I periodically check to see if there are any new theory pages, since they sometimes are neglected from being added to the theory portals. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

"Article of the week"

Our "article of the week" is not really an article of the week. It's really just the latest episode, and probably always will be. To match "Latest Graphic Novel", I think we should change the heading to "Latest Episode". Any objections? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2007 (EST)

  • I think we should still have an "Article of the week", though adding a subtitle such as: "Article of the Week: Latest Episode" is a good idea, imho.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • That seems unnecessarily bulky to me. I'd rather one or the other. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:28, 16 November 2007 (EST)
      • Ok, how about one in the header and the other in the body?--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2007 (EST)
        • Why? It's either the article of the week or it's the latest episode. Personally, since we've generally only shown the episode or graphic novel there, I think that's what it should be. It's not really the article of the week, which implies that we're pulling from a much larger pool of articles, and that's the one that was chosen. Also, many other sites have an article of the week which is voted upon--that's not the case with us, and I would hate to mislead anybody. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:04, 17 November 2007 (EST)
  • I thought about that a while ago. I say rename it to "Latest Episode" like you suggest. If we ever do start using it for anything else we can always rename it very easily. (Admin 22:30, 16 November 2007 (EST))
  • One question: what happens in a couple weeks when we have neither new episodes nor new GNs? Or are they getting non-TV writers to do the GNs like they did for the summer?--Hardvice (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • I haven't heard anything. I don't know what to do if we have no new content, that'll be a first. I suppose for the main page we could actually do an article of the week. As for everything else, I'm going to catch up on my sleep. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2007 (EST)
      • I agree--SacValleyDweller (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2007 (EST)
        • I'm not sure they're hiring any new GN writers like they did for the summer. According to Jason Badower's blog, Jason was contacted about drawing/coloring for the GN after the eleventh episode, but the GN was pulled when the writer (who is on strike), asked for it to be pulled. Jason also mentioned that the writer had an artist friend in mind to do the drawing. Also, the producer Tim Kring is on strike, so is unavailable to vet new GN scripts, so it's not like they can just hire outside writers. As far as I know, NBC isn't yet suing its show-runners/producers to get them back on the job (CBS is, though...). My recommendation is that since there is no new episode or GN, that we should cover the strike in "Article of the Week". I think the writers, producers and actors would appreciate the solidarity from the fans. Since we are just *fans*, it can be an objective take summarizing both sides. Anyways, that's my suggestion.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2007 (EST)
          • As much as I support the writers, I don't want our main article to be about the strike, but rather about an element of the Heroes world. Our site specializes in chronicling the details of the show, and that's what people come here for. If people want news about the strike, I doubt they'll come here, nor do I want to have us trying to pass ourselves off as such a site. It's a very nice gesture, and I like the sentiment, but I think we should play to our strengths. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:28, 16 November 2007 (EST)
            • There wouldn't be a Heroes world without both the writers and the networks, but I understand if it is decided not to cover it in the "article of the week". If we go the "feature article" route, could we vote on what article to feature for each week? There's also the "do-nothing" option, in which we keep the same article of the week until a new episode or graphic novel is released: that seems to be the de-facto option that we've gone with in the past.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:42, 16 November 2007 (EST)
              • That is what we've done in the past, but I think it might be nice to actually have an article of the week, at least to test it out. A vote would be a fantastic idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:59, 16 November 2007 (EST)
                • It would also be a good reason to give some of the older articles a very thorough examination and polish.--Hardvice (talk) 00:56, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  • However, for the moment, while it is just an episode every week, "Latest Episode" is the best bet. I don't remember how it was handled in the summer (or last season's hiatus, since I wasn't here), but, it can easily be changed from "Latest Episode" to "Article of the Week" when we actually have an article that isn't an episode. Lulu 23:25, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • I agree; the title can be changed as needed. It makes more sense to have it say "Latest Episode" right now, though, since, well, that's what it is. Incidentally, over the summer and hiatuses, the article of the week was the graphic novel. There were one or two weeks where there was neither a graphic novel nor an episode, and we just left whatever we had on there for an extra week. (I believe it was before Wireless, Part 1, sometime around Christmas.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:32, 16 November 2007 (EST)
      • Why can't there be a Latest Episode and an AOTW too?--Citizen 22:04, 18 November 2007 (EST)
        • There can be. My issue is not the content, it's the title. We don't have an article of the week right now, we have the latest episode, so I'd like to change the title of that section. If we'd like to add a real AOTW, I think it's a fine idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2007 (EST)
          • I'm for creating a "Last Episode Aired" template, and having the AOTW change with each week, even if there's episodes aired. We might need to tweak the main page though. Though adding a short AOTW template over/under it would allow for us to use all of the trivia and balance the main page.--Bob (talk) 02:23, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  • Changed "Article of the Week" title to to to "Latest Episode"--SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • I still think we should have a regular Article of the Week as well. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 14:13, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Removal of episode summary on "Next on Heroes"

"Next on Heroes" should really be just the title of the next episode as well as the time and date with a link towards the summary and spoiler page. (Somewhat like the graphic novel) The summary seems mostly like a spoiler sitting right on the front page! (Whenever I enter the heroes wiki I try my hardest not to look at the summary so as not to know what will happen in the next episode!)

ps: sorry if this has been discussed before...--Tacbaf 10:34, 20 November 2007 (EST)

  • I think we could put the summary in a collapsible collapsed table... would that be okay?--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:56, 20 November 2007 (EST)
    • Personally, I like that we use NBC's summary, because it doesn't reveal a lot. You essentially get a small recap of what was aired after the episode when they show clips from next week's ep. The idea of collapsible table on the main page would look weird and slow down load time.--Bob (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2007 (EST)
      • I personally think that one of the strong points of heroes is the suspense of what will happen next. Stating what each character is going to do gives some of that away (and thats why i also don't see the scenes from the next episodes). Besides the fact that anyone that hasn't see the latest aired episode can't even visit this wiki cause of the summary's. The front page shouldn't be a trap to those not up to date on the episodes, it should be an area accesible to anyone watching or interested in watching heroes. --Tacbaf 11:32, 22 November 2007 (EST)
      • The summaries are from TV Guide (which to be honest I don't think we're supposed to even be using). So for starters I think the next episode summaries need to be rewritten ourselves. Since that has to be done, it may be possible to make them sufficiently broad where they don't spoil any information. Barring that, I wouldn't be opposed to stripping it down to just some essential info including the name of the episode and the date it'll be airing. (Admin 13:52, 23 November 2007 (EST))
        • We cite the summaries though. Isn't that sufficient? Also, I don't like rewriting it ourselves, because none of us have (legally) seen the episode, so it's just speculation. If we don't use the TV Guide summary, then we should just cut it to just time and name.--Bob (talk) 13:56, 23 November 2007 (EST)
          • I haven't checked in a while, but I thought this came up in the past and I found that TV Guide doesn't permit any reuse of their content. I'm not positive. I seem to recall in the past using TV Guide's summary as a base and then rewriting it completely and changing any specifics to be more broad. (Admin 14:00, 23 November 2007 (EST))
            • The TV Guide summaries come, as far as I'm aware, from the official NBC press releases. So, maybe we remove the link to TV Guide, replace it with a link to the official release, and there goes the whole copyright issue. As for the "Next on Heroes" bit, maybe a link to the press release would suffice, along with name, episode number, season, and date.--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  14:06, 23 November 2007 (EST)
              • Lost Soul is correct, NBC Universal Media Village releases an episode summary prior to each airing. However, TV Guide often has some inside info. and publishes the summary before NBC releases it on their website, but the origin of the information is NBC.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:19, 23 November 2007 (EST)

Red links

I think we should all work more to decrease the amount of red links before we get stormed with hundreds of them. If we don't do something about them, we're gonna end up like Lostpedia, which has over 1200 red links.--Citizen 14:33, 24 November 2007

  • Yeah I'm agree and I try as far as I can to fix the misspelled link but most of these red links are Cast & Crew... Sometimes from even non-aired episodes. These one are kinda hard to fill. (and not very attractive) -- Frenchflo.gif (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2007 (EST)
    • Though I agree, I wish we would focus more on fulfilling requests for wanted pages, I don't think we should have any policy against having red links. I don't think that's what anybody's suggesting, I just want to head that one off at the pass. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:03, 24 November 2007 (EST)
      • That's exactly what I mean RGS, we have to create those articles before we have as much red links as Lostpedia -- Citizen 24 November 2007
        • Go for it. Personally, I prefer to edit existing articles, and I would hope that people would want to spend time doing the things they enjoy on the site. If you want to take care of the red links, be my guest, there are plenty of them. Who knows, maybe we'll even have a completely blue site. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2007 (EST)

Content for hiatus

So since we've added the Graphic novel template to the main page, should we move to having an actual AOTW, and leave the latest episode aired? It also appears that Heroes Evolutions will continue during the hiatus. So, here's some templates I've worked on for possible use, but I honestly just want something on the main page that is small & short.

Any thoughts?--Bob (talk) 07:38, 4 December 2007 (EST)

  • I like your latest Evolutions template. It can be even shorter if we need it to be (if something lengthy is released), but I like it for now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:10, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Primatech Research

I dont think primatech research and the company facility in hartsdale are the same thing. When the show list the location on the bottom of the scene it did not say primatech research...it said company facility in hartsdale new york. i think we should change these as two different facilities even though they are in the same city. Primatech research and the facility in hartsdale dont even look the same and if they were the same place, how come everytime there was a scene in bobs office or peters cell it said company facility in hartsdale rather than primatech research? that is because they are seperate locations...thanks,.

  • Except they're not. The location in Truth & Consequences is the same hallway that connects to the hospital (it's decorated differently, but that was thirty years ago, and it's unmistakably the same hallway, architecturally). Niki goes from that hallway to Bob's office before she injects herself.--Hardvice (talk) 14:26, 4 December 2007 (EST)
  • I think thats a little speculative if you ask me. In the finale, when Elle was in Bobs office, the wording on the bottom of the screen said Company facility, hartsdale new york. if it were primatech research, why wouldnt they just state that it was? You are basing a whole perspective on a hallway that looks the same. speculative, speculative, speculative...is that how you guys role at heroes wiki?

This day in Heroes history?

A passing thought for a nifty part of the main page. We have don't have enough for the whole year I know, but it might be nifty some on days when there is something. what's everyone else think?--SacValleyDweller (talk) 22:31, 5 December 2007 (EST)

  • ...sounds like Lostpedia. :) I'm not too interested in this idea personally and I also don't know how many of our dates are exact, but if the following two issues are addressed I wouldn't be opposed to it necessarily:
    1. The info should update automatically rather than needing to be updated every day.
    2. The info should be available in such a way that it won't negatively impact the appearance of the main page on days where info is included or days when there is no info. (Admin 22:37, 5 December 2007 (EST))
    • I don't think it would work with just the timeline stuff. However, something I've been thinking about for a while, but not being able to implement, is a birthday list. Assuming the DPL extension stays in (Admin hasn't answered my e-mailed question about the errors), we might be able to use it to make a dynamic list of the characters and set workers who have birthdays in the current month. There's probably not enough in the timeline to span the whole year, but we could manually add that info in there in addition to the birthdays. Grabbing the month automatically may be possible, but it'll be harder and for some days it could make the page too crowded. As to where it would go, I think Current events is a better place as the main page is crowded enough already. Also, collapsible tables have been rejected from the main page so I'm not sure if DPL will be okay for the same reason. That my two cents worth.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:54, 5 December 2007 (EST)
      • Sorry, missed your email. Been busy lately. DPL extension will be staying in. (Admin 23:12, 5 December 2007 (EST))
        • With the idea of eventually adding them to current events, I've created and added a version of 'This day in Heroes history' to my userpage along with the original birthdays and holidays/observances templates. I've also made a more Heroes-restricted observances template since there appear to be at least a couple grinches lurking around. j/k ;)--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:56, 28 December 2007 (EST)
          • Bah humbug! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:37, 28 December 2007 (EST)
          • I like the Heroes-themed current event templates. I think they'll make a very interesting addition to the current events article. The non-Heroes ones we don't need on there. (Admin 03:23, 28 December 2007 (EST))
            • They're in current events now. Feel free to change the formatting if you want.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:49, 28 December 2007 (EST)

Hey!

Where'd the latest episode go?!--SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Ryan removed it, presumably because we are in a hiatus. -- Lulu .:talk:. 20:58, 10 December 2007 (EST)

  • I wouldn't mind replacing the space lost with something...perhaps this?--Bob (talk) 21:06, 10 December 2007 (EST)
    • We can easily return the episode of the week--it's just a matter of deleting the comment tabs. I'd wouldn't mind seeing a "real" aotw here, though. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:34, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Birthdays!

Ok, thanks to the new DPL template, I've been able to automate a template that can add a listing of the cast and crew who have birthdays in the current month to the main page. You can see what adding it looks like on the main page here. So, should we add it?--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:41, 22 December 2007 (EST)

  • Doesn't really seem necessary to me. Personally I'd rather not clutter up the main page with it. (Admin 18:45, 22 December 2007 (EST))
    • My previous thought was that it was better on current events, but it seemed to fill the void underneath DYK rather well, so that's why I suggested it.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:16, 22 December 2007 (EST)
      • I like the idea of putting it on current events. That feels more appropriate to me. (Admin 19:30, 22 December 2007 (EST))
        • It looks very nice. I agree with Admin, I think current events is the best place for it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:14, 22 December 2007 (EST)
          • Ok, it's in current events now. Feel free to change the formatting if you want.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:45, 23 December 2007 (EST)

Interview template on Main Page

  • The link to Adam and Kay's interview at the top of the main page (under "Heroes Wiki recently conducted several exclusive interviews:") does not seem to work, though it does on every other page...on the main page, the word "here" is black and doesn't contain an HTML link. I can't figure out how to edit this...is there a template? --Simply Agrestic 10:23, 4 February 2008 (EST)
    • That's strange, it looks and works alright for me. Could you try clearing out your cache and seeing if it still doesn't work? (Admin 10:40, 4 February 2008 (EST))
      • It works for me, too. Sometimes I've had that problem, though, and it usually works after I clear my cache (hit F5 or CTRL+F5). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:20, 4 February 2008 (EST)
        • Works today, very odd. Blame it on the IE6 I'm forced to use at work! :) BTW, this goes out to all admins and contributors -- great job on the site! Very glad I can keep my Heroes addiction up until next fall. --Simply Agrestic 09:01, 5 February 2008 (EST)
          • Great, glad it's working, and glad you like the site. We have a ton of Grade A contributors! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:46, 5 February 2008 (EST)
          • Thankfully NBC is still putting out graphic novels so at least there's some new content coming out to keep everyone from going crazy. :) Hopefully the strike won't be too much longer and they'll be able to get back to production and at least start coming up with timetables on when new episodes will be airing again. (Admin 11:15, 5 February 2008 (EST))

Kristen Bell pursues other projects

Shouldn't that be renamed. Considering she said she still has 5 more episodes to film and hopes to do more. I know she said in an interview she thinks they will have Elle's story end open so that she can come back when she has time.--Bobert 18:55, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

  • I'd rather just take it off altogether. It barely talks about Heroes at all, and it's not really newsworthy, if you ask me. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:25, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

UK visitors

  • We get a good deal of visitors from the UK especially on Thursday nights since BBC is airing Heroes Season 2 currently. I think it'd be a good idea to present some information on the home page geared towards them at least until Heroes begins airing in the US again (or even afterwards as long as we have space on the main page). I wonder if we can fit another AOTW (though perhaps smaller in size) in somewhere which would keep up with the most recently aired episode over in the UK. Any thoughts or suggestions? (Admin 17:01, 15 May 2008 (EDT))
  • I went ahead and just added a new AOTW to the main page for the UK visitors for the moment since we're getting a lot of hits from the UK at the moment and it'll be helpful for them. If necessary we can work on a different design or worst case we can just revert the changes I made. (Admin 17:14, 15 May 2008 (EDT))
    • Sounds like a good idea to me. What do you think about adding the UK airdates for episodes like was done on Bionic Wiki?--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
      • I'm undecided at the moment. If anyone else has an opinion, speak up! :) (Admin 18:04, 15 May 2008 (EDT))
        • If you need anyone to write up UK airdates for Heroes/Heroes Unmasked etc, I'd be more than happy seeing to do so as I'm from the UK, and it would help many of the UK visitors to the site - I feel a lot of the time all of the content is written towards US visitors (fair enough really) but if you want some more UK stuff added, I can do it. (Friskymuffin 15:22, 28 May 2008 (GMT)
  • FYI Heroes in the UK finishes at 5pm Eastern on Thursdays, so at that point the UK article of the week can be updated to the next episode. The BBC Heroes page is here. (Admin 23:37, 21 May 2008 (EDT))

Spoiler warning?

On other wikis like Lostpedia, there's a big warning on the main page stating that the site is written in accordance with the US schedule (i.e. articles contain information from latest US episode) and so some of the information on the site could be spoilers to people watching in other countries, for example the UK. Could we have some kind of notice/banner that states that the wiki has relevant information up to the US episode, and so if the visitor does not want to see this information, they should be very careful which pages they browse...? --Friskymuffin (talk) 15:30, 28 May 2008 (GMT)

  • If it could be done in such a way that it alerts people clearly while not looking tacky then I think it could be a good idea. (Admin 11:40, 28 May 2008 (EDT))
    • You think Lostpedia's warning is tacky? (Friskymuffin - (talk) 16:07, 28 May 2008 (EDT))
      • No, I don't think theirs is particularly tacky. I was just listing my personal requirements for the notification, I wasn't commenting on any other examples in particular. :) I'm hoping to see some feedback from others, though, before potentially adding some kind of notice. (Admin 16:10, 28 May 2008 (EDT))
        • I don't think there needs to be a warning on every page, and I don't think there needs to be a huge warning on the main page. I think something simple on the main page--maybe a sentence or two on Template:Mainwelcome or Template:Nextepisode--would be fine. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2008 (EDT)
          • That's the type of notification I'm leaning towards, too. (Admin 21:15, 28 May 2008 (EDT))
            • A warning like Lostpedia's would work better than a warning in the main welcome template because people will actually see it while others will just stop reading the welcome as soon as they get what the point is.--Citizen 17:07, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Character bios

So who's idea was it to present character biographies by episode/graphic novel as opposed to chronologically? It would seem at first glance that this wiki can only be comprehended by people who know all the titles.--Citizen 17:33, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

  • Not sure if this helps you, but after each season is over, we normally move the character histories to a subpage and write a shorter non-titled season summary. That should help those who don't know, or don't want to know all the titles. We haven't begun the season summaries for Season 2 since Season 3 is a few months away.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
  • It's just the way we always did it. In a show that jumps around through time doing it chronologically would be tricky at times as would trying to establish an actual chronology (though people working on the timeline have done a good job trying to nail the events down). The articles read in the order that a third party following along with the series as it progresses would encounter the information. It also has the benefit of making it easier for people/countries who are behind to only read as far as they've gotten in the series without interspersing spoilers right in the articles. By all means not the only way it could be done here, it's just the way it was done early on and it's worked well for us. (Admin 17:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT))
    • Ah that makes a lot of sense now. I'm sorry I ever doubted you. I'll pack my things and leave when you ask me to.--Citizen 18:33, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
      • Haha. Not at all. :) Nothing would ever change or be improved if people didn't question the status quo. :) (Admin 18:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT))

Webisodes

Will the articles for the Heroes webisode's episodes/characters be handled like the ones for the show?--Citizen 23:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

  • Most likely, yes. Let's wait and see what the webisodes look and feel like first, though. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:41, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

To fill the space at the bottom...

There's a bit of a gap at the bottom of the main page, so any suggestions as to what could fill it? I think something like a "Featured Article of the Week" (not the article of the week - which is just the latest episode now anyway). Ideas? -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 14:15, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

  • I'll make a suggestion, which will probably be done anyways. Right now we have welcome, latest GN, latest ep in that column. When the webisodes come out, make the column thusly: latest webisode, latest GN, latest ep. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Ah I didn't think of that, good idea. -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 16:43, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
      • I don't like latest episode since its been there since December and maybe we should just keep it at latest GN, latest webisode and article of the week since we have over 2700 articles and it could work.--Citizen 20:25, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
        • That's true, but for UK users, the latest episode has only been there for about two weeks. Though I have no problem with it being removed, if the white space is filled by something else. -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 09:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
  • Ok, I re-added the latest UK episode template to make the columns more or less aligned, but have left the heading as just "Latest episode" since the US is caught up now. I also want to add a reminder here that when the episodes begin in Fall, we should use Template:Aotw for the latest US episode, return to using Template:Graphic Novel mainbar for the latest graphic novel and remove Template:Aotw-uk from the page (UK viewers will get to watch Heroes just 3 days after the United States viewers so including it would be more or less pointless).--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:48, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
  • That gap has started to bug me now :/ I think we need a featured artical, or make the interview thing bigger and put it on the left. Iam doing interviews with guest cast and one suporting cast as we speak so there will be enought to fill it. And Ryan is always interving new people about graphic novels. --Skywalkerrbf 12:13, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Ryan's away at camp now, so unless Evsdropr suddenly replies I wouldn't expect a new interview from him for at least another month. If the gap bugs you, we could re-add add the Story Development blurbs to the Latest episode and webisode.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:24, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
  • Its ok now, Admin moved around the boxes and I eddited down the heroes news to the last 6, and now it is perfect!!!!! --Skywalkerrbf 13:13, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Actually, I put the news back up to 10 since we typically keep the latest 10 links for the news section. Keep in mind that everyone's view of the page will vary, so what looks perfect to one person will be off to another. Right now it looks pretty decent to me at a few different window sizes. (Admin 13:15, 15 July 2008 (EDT))
    • O ok sorry I didn't think about it like that sorry! --Skywalkerrbf 13:51, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
    • I think it looks much better now it's been re-arranged, nice work Admin! -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 15:49, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

John McCain ads

Yeah, just kinda throwing my word out there that maybe we should get rid of those John McCain ads, because not all of the users here at heroeswiki like John McCain.Martinpetrelli94321 19:15, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

  • I don't screen the ads with the exception of ads that may be dangerous. If it wants to put ads for McCain on here so be it. I'm not a fan of McCain either, personally, but I'm not going to censor the ads just because of personal views. (Admin 21:29, 3 August 2008 (EDT))
    • If I'm not mistaken, all the ads put on this site are put on by a third party, right? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 23:42, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Currently the ads are mostly Google ads. So basically advertisers setup their ads on Google, specify some keywords or demographics, and Google takes care of showing the ads on different sites based on the content of the site. For all I know they're using "Hero" as a keyword which might be why we're getting them. :) (Admin 00:05, 4 August 2008 (EDT))

New feature for Main Page

A mystery image of the week. It would be a small image from one of the graphic novels and users would have to work out were it was from. I would gladly organise it. There would be trophies for peoples user pages for being the first, second and third to get it right and then a yearly trophie . --Skywalkerrbf 18:01, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

  • Maybe it could work out if you get more people to do it. I agree with this idea but get more people.--Citizen 12:57, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
    • More people running it do you mean?--Skywalkerrbf 13:15, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
      • I think the idea is fine, but not for the main page. I would start is off as your own contest on your user page or a subpage or something, and then see where it goes. The main page really should be reserved for information and navigation, not games. I'm afraid that we all are becoming a little stir crazy waiting for Season Three to begin. Games are cool and fun and a great way to keep casual contributors and editors interested, but I just don't think the main page is the right place for it to go right now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:48, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
        • By the way, will we replace the "latest webisode" with "latest episode" once Season 3 starts airing?--Referos 21:00, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
          • Yes. If webisodes continue, I'm not opposed to having both sections, of course. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
            • It would seem we won't be getting any websiodes until this half of the season is over. --Skywalkerrbf 17:04, 22 August 2008 (EDT)