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Page move

I believe this page *might* be moved to "Timeline:Post-March 2007" (or post-something or something better) with the following information:


Timeline edit

Pre-eclipseOctober 2006November 2006December 2006-February 2007March 2007 Post-March 2007Possible futures

June 15, 2007

2008

[ Category:Timeline ]


Right now, with the 2007 info on the Possible futures page, and the 2008 info not, it's not very even-looking.--Tim Thomason 22:05, 21 January 2008 (EST)

  • Could be. But if we have enough information about 2008 events down the road, then we can keep it all on one page. Let's let it play out and see where it goes, and we can always reevaluate. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2008 (EST)
    • I understand that. We should always reserve the right to change page layout in the future, but then what should we do about the June '07 info? I don't think we should leave it on the Possible futures page (since it's not a possible future). Should we scrap it, move it to a Timeline:June 2007 or Timeline:April-December 2007 page or what?--Tim Thomason 22:42, 21 January 2008 (EST)
      • I see what you're saying now. The registration is kind of a limbo date since it really kind of is a future date: the timeline of the episodes haven't gotten past March 20, 2007. However, it looks like the graphic novels (or at least the last two) are up to 2008. I would just as soon take the registration date off the timeline altogether because it's really insignificant. We can add it back after we find out where we're going with the new episodes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2008 (EST)
I agree with them. It should be moved so it can include Heroes Evolutions stuff as well. --DECBOY23 08:42, 26 January 2008 (EST)
Them who? There are only two people who have posted on this page, and we both disagree. In either case, there is no evidence that what happens in the Evolutions content takes place post-March 2007. In fact, there are plenty of examples of timeline inconsistencies in Evolutions, where something is listed as having taken place on the day it's posted, but the timeline of the episodes contradicts this assertion. When something conflicts, we leave it off. We tend to leave "current" happenings from Evolutions off the timeline. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2008 (EST)

How can we say...

...that the events of Different and the Same, History of a Secret, and Pieces of Me happened in 2008? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

  • We assume a continuous timeline unless the novels tell us otherwise. So unless there's evidence of a time-shift, we assume they're sequential.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:05, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
    • That didn't answer my question, so I'll rephrase: How can we say that the events in those GNs dont happen in 2007? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
      • Cause they followed a novel confirmed to happen in 2008 (the banner displays 2008).--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:18, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

You know what, we may have a major plot hole on our hands. In D&S, Noah is heading off with the Haitian to erase Piper's memory again. D&S, supposedly, happens in 2008. As of 2007, the Company is headed on a self destruct course and Noah in incarcerated. How is this penciling out? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

  • It could be that something happens that puts the Haitian together with Noah again, we just don't know. However, considering that Bob and Noah went together to stop Claire from going public with the info., it isn't out of the question that something could change Bob's mind and put Noah back on the active list.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:40, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
    • But we know that evs appeared after Hana and Drucker were gone, which, according to the banner, happened in 2008. However, the most recent graphic novels happen in 2007, so, unless evs can bend time, he actually appeared in 2007. I guess the banner is wrong, then.--Referos 20:09, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
      • I strongly lean toward the banner being a mistake myself. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
        • Ditto. The only way to work around the timeline is to regard the 2008 references as mistakes. Pierre 08:26, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
          • We don't know that Evs only appeared after Hana and Drucker were gone; we only know that Evs started talking to us after Hana and Drucker were gone. There is a difference. In fact, Connie and Julien seem to have been already infiltrating the Company at that time. Also, there is evidence part of the timeline could be moved to 2009 due to Penny's age, but I'm waiting for the responses to Interview:Into the Wild before recommending any changes.--MiamiVolts (talk) 08:53, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Updating

Okay, as of March 20 or so, 2007, Bob's "no longer with us." So, barring some sort of comic book resurrection which we should not assume, The Man with Too Much Brains occurs in 2007 or earlier (the "2008" is a mistake, or some sort of "Class of 2008" reference or something). As such, any dates based on that fact alone should be removed, and placed in the 2006/2007 timelines wherever appropriate (linear order seems best in this case).--Tim Thomason 02:27, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

  • You're not considering the that the original future, Tim, was different from the one that exists now. The Man with Too Much Brains occurred in the 2008 that existed before Future Peter came back from the future and altered the timeline. Basically, in the timeline that no longer exists Bob didn't die became Claire came to Odessa to help Peter save her father. Thus, in the original timeline Sylar never got Claire's ability and he wasn't able to kill Bob. There's still the matter of whether the Company arc ended in the original timeline's 2009 as I believe it did, but that should be answered soon when we get back the interview questions from the Into the Wild graphic novels.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:45, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
    • So, these timeline happen in another timeline?
      • Perhaps. We're waiting for the writers to get back to us with their decision on that.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
        • Doesn't The Man with Too Much Brains take place before Hana's death ? And doesn't the whole Evs Dropper storyline take place after Hana's death ? Now since most of the main characters in E.D.'s storyline are now dead (Gael, Donna, Bianca, etc.) and since Bianca and Gael's deaths (While they were alive with Sabine at the end of the Novel arc.) happen at the beginning of the season, I think it's safe to assume that most of the E.D. storyline happen before Future!Peter comes back to shoot Nathan. Therefore, whatever changes are made to the future ... I personally doubt they'd effect anything related to Evs Dropper. But that's just me. --LeoChris 21:49, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
          • Yes and no. The writers said that the Evs Dropper arc is supposed to end up about the time of the Season 3 premiere, but they got it a little bit off. For instance, in the Into the Wild novels, there's both Bob talking to Gael and Bridget's case being changed (because of her death???). Also, The Man with Too Much Brains had a 2008 banner but now we have to assume that was in 2007.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
            • The Bailey case could simply be Bridget being cleared to become food for Sylar, not her being dead as they speak ... or it could be something else all together ... Besides the 2007 banner, is there anything else that affects the (apparently) logical (for the lack of a better term) timeline ? --LeoChris 20:05, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Events of Red eye

I put the events of Red Eye, Part 2, Idon'tknow if I do it wrong. Henryp 15:50, 1 January 2009

iStory events

Should iStory events be listed into these Timeline articles? If so, then "The Private" events should probably be in both June 2007 and Summer 2006, while "The Agent" should be in June 2007. I'm not sure about "Friend or Foe" since I didn't follow them, but I presume they'll be during March 2007. --Radicell 20:21, 14 February 2009 (EST)

DATE?

Where was proof of the date? I was looking and looking and couldn't figure out where anyone said/showed that there was an actual date? --Parkmansgirl 15:41, 2 March 2009 (EST)

  • An editor "tried [his/her] best to correspond info from latest episode into dates based on clues". Rather speculative. I think it should be reverted. - Josh (talk/contribs) 16:35, 2 March 2009 (EST)
    • So there hasn't been any actual proof in canon show or graphic novel wise? --Parkmansgirl 20:57, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Okay, here's how I figured out the dates. In A Clear and Present Danger, Nathan says he's been senator for three months. He started being senator on March 20, 2007, so three months after is June 20, 2007. So the events of ACAPD, I concluded, take place on that date. Night falls at the end of ACAPD, so Trust and Blood, an immediate continuation of ACAPD 's events, takes place on June 21, 2007. The episodes Building 26 and Cold Wars are directly continued, so they take place on the same day/night. Since Daphne was brought into Building 26 'two days ago' according to Cold Wars 's screentext, Cold Wars and Building 26 therefore takes place two days after June 21, alas, June 23. Since Alex Woolsly met Claire in Building 26, his experiences at the beach must have occurred before meeting Claire, thus, "Prior to June 23" for The Swimmer. Since Claire received Rebel's text in Trust and Blood, and the introduction for Libertad says that Claire was "not the first" to receive these messages, the events of Libertad must be before those of Trust and Blood, alas, "Prior to June 21".

Now, Cold Wars takes place on June 23. A week before that (ie. June 16), Noah visits Danko's apartment. Three weeks before Cold Wars (ie. June 2), Danko and Noah argue. Four weeks before Cold Wars (ie. May 26), Noah and Nathan meet. Five weeks before Cold Wars (ie. May 19), Noah and Angela meet. --Radicell 04:47, 3 March 2009 (EST)

  • And, Cold Wars takes place at night, so Exposed takes place the next day, June 24. --Radicell 08:57, 4 March 2009 (EST)
  • When you say you've been something for three months, it usually doesn't mean it's been exactly three months since you became it. Besides, Nathan probably wasn't sworn in the day he was shot. - Josh (talk/contribs) 11:32, 4 March 2009 (EST)
    • Rewatching A Clear and Present Danger, I noticed he says he's been a senator less than three months. - Josh (talk/contribs) 21:49, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I'd much rather have confirmation of the date. I don't want to base all these dates off one very ambiguous time reference. If Nathan said, "Today marks three months that I've been in office," well that's one thing. But he said he's been senator for less than three months, so we really know it's at the very latest June 2007...but we don't know the date. Even if he said he was the senator for three months, I still wouldn't feel comfortable with pinning an exact date on that. I think all the current dates need to be removed until we have confirmation. cf. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:00, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Alright, I see everyone's point. However, since we weren't sure about when Nathan became senator in the first place (since it could have been any day AFTER March 20, and doesn't have to be in March at all), we wouldn't even have an idea of what month the events of Volume 4 takes place in. This means that we'll probably have to list everything under one big sub-category. --Radicell 05:01, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
  • I've removed the speculative date titles. It all looks very clumped now, although that's better than speculating, I suppose. I've scanned through all the volume 4 episodes, looking for any clue of a date (like on a computer screen or TV screen, etc.) but got no luck. I've even started scanning through some of the Volume 3 episodes, to see when exactly they took place. About the "heroes timeline inconsistencies" thing on the Community Portal, are we going to send those to the writers and ask them to sort it out? --Radicell 07:22, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Newspaper

Did anybody check to see if the newspaper Sylar is holding in the "Redemption" promo (14 weeks later) has a date? --Crazyaspie 04:36, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

I checked it. Unfortunately there's no data at all. I also want to badly know the exact dates... but, helas! --Janrodrigo 09:09, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get a definitive date for Volume 4 events. =/ --Radicell 09:15, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
I hope we will some day :) By the way, did you try to read the newspaper? If you carefully read it, you'll see that all the columns are the exact copies of each other, only some are standing higher some lower... So it's very clear that the newspaper is fake! :) --Janrodrigo 09:23, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Wasn't it supposed to jump ahead six weeks? Which would make it around September 2007? Which is weird, because the recession didn't occur until December of that year. --Hero!(talk)(contribs)

200when?

The timeline is officially off now. During the first two seasons, we were firmly planted in 2006 and 2007. The third season never really gave us any definite time frame, other than saying that we were anywhere from moments to weeks after Nathan's press conferences--thus 2007. But this season, we've been told that we're in the fall following the events of Season Three (which would be 2007). We've also been told that Jeremy was born in 1992 and is 17 years old, meaning it's after October 14, 2009. If it were just Jeremy's date, we could say that it was a mistake. However, there are other things that are pointing to the fact that we're in 2009 (like Hiro jumping back three years...to 2006--more on that later). We are officially in timeline limbo.

I believe that any references we have for Season 4 being in 2007 should be removed. Likewise, I don't think we should say that we are in 2009, either. Saying we are in one year or the other would make the other wrong. Instead, we have to do things like say "Hiro time traveled back three years" rather than say "Hiro time traveled to 2006". Death dates need to be recorded as "unknown" so the page is correctly categorized, but so no date is printed. It sucks, but that's the only way I can think to handle it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:53, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Yeah. Agree. The thing is, we don't know how long Season Three lasted for, and people have been simply assuming that the timeline is still in 2007. Right now we have no idea when we are (the Hiro argument isn't really valid, since it wasn't at all stated that he jumped back to 2006 (not yet, at least)). But I think we should simply be listing things like deathdates as "unknown". --Radicell 04:28, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Exactly, as I've said before, the fugitives arc could have lasted for over a year, but compressed into the episodes that we see, only showing the exciting bits and making it seem like only two weeks!--mc_hammark 05:06, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Yes. I mean, we know Volume Three was roughly March-April 2007, May at most. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure Tracy said in the opening scene of Volume Four that another two months had passed, which gives us at latest, July 2007 for the start of Volume Four? However, I think the writers are trying to deliberately move away from a specific timeline for Volume Five. Without disclosing spoilers, I'm hoping the episode named after a day will at least give us the year we're in now. Y'all know what I mean? -- Tristan0709 talk 06:24, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
        • Yes, I know. That could give answers. --mc_hammark 07:32, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
          • The timeline was fairly consistent, and then the writers strike happened. Ever since then, they've just been confused by the timeline.--Gibbeynator 10:50, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Judging by how lightly the residents of Baltimore were dressed, I would suggest that it is late in the summer, though this pinning-down is obviously difficult to prove. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 11:33, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Actually, if Claire is starting up college with everyone else, it is likely we're looking at September 2009. Add into this that Claire was a junior in high school in March 2007, and the dates do line up. Incidentally, this fixes a few other Claire-related time problems by pushing her birthdate (at the likeliest point) as August 8, 1990, making her 19 now. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 11:38, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
              • You can't place spoilers. Promos count as spoilers. An isn't is warm in Baltimore quite a lot? Although I do agree about the Claire part. --mc_hammark 11:39, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
                • I had assumed that promotional ads and/or commercials aired on television were not considered spoilers. If that's not the case, my apologies. It's not blisteringly warm, but Baltimore is south enough for it to be warmer than say, New England, when fall arrives. September would still be a reasonable point in time given this evidence. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 11:48, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
      • I don't know how this works, but Claire DID get her GED. And we saw her looking for a college at the start of Fugitives, which was still 2007.--Gibbeynator 14:48, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
        • Although in the istory Micah said something about him getting her into college. That's how she got in, not because HRG works for the government, like Annie suggested. --mc_hammark 14:54, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
Well would post-2007 work if there are any important dates to name?--Anthony Gooch 17:24, 28 October 2009 (EDT)
  • For me, I stopped following the timeline mid-way in Season Three. I think Heroes is just like a comic-book with no date info-s, simply story telling. If we followed the way we counted the time in Season Two, season two lasted about a week or so. How is it possible Peter developed a love interest in Ireland and does much more within...5 days? The season might have lasted a year worth in the Heroes Universe, and Volume Three plus Four might be a couple years more. The most accurate timeline for me is Season 1. --JLYK
Once Upon a Time in Texas gave us some clear information about the timeline... It's 2009 now. Jeremy Greer was 17 when he died. I think we may discuss some deaths from Volume Four. Nathan was killed in 2009, because it happened six weeks before Orientation/Jump, Push, Fall. Tom Miller could be murdered in 2009... These are the deaths I'm pretty sure of. James Martin could be killed in 2008, because it took some time for Noah to figure out Sylar could shapeshift.Green.gif AltesUTC CH
  • Volume 4 begins 2 months after Volume 3 as per Tracy's comments on the last time she has seen Nathan. With the comics, iStories and what happens in the episodes, there is little reconciliation as to the dates in Heroes now. It may be best to accept it exists on a sliding timescale and that 2008 simply didn't exist (except of course in the outbreak future). Perhaps the thing to do is simply put dates down according to what the timeline was at the time that the episode aired (so everything Volume 4 is 2007 and everything Volume 5 is 2009 even though it doesnt fit) because thats what we are all having to pretend anyway. --Action Figure 04:58, 4 November 2009 (EST)
    • Volume 4 begins 2 months after Volume 3. But we don't know when Volume 3 ended, nor do we know how long Volume 4 lasted. So it's not unreasonable to say that the timeline is now at 2009. --Radicell 05:14, 4 November 2009 (EST)
      • We know that Dual occurs in a reasonable timeframe after March 23, 2007. Nathan meeting the president happens in April. Putting Volume 4 in May or June. Considering the events seen in the episodes of Volume 4 and the graphic novels and extras at that time, Volume 4 could easily take place in the span of a little over a week, and most likely ends in June or July. There is NOTHING to indicate it took a year for these events, and even if it were several months (which wouldnt work and would be impossible) it still wouldnt put us at September/ Octoberish of 2009.) Not to mention soon there is an episode called "T**********g" coming that will put us in a whole different month. It is COMPLETELY unreasonable to say it is in 2009 now, unless you go with the sliding timeline theory. --Action Figure 08:08, 4 November 2009 (EST)
        • How exactly do we know that "Dual occurs in a reasonable timeframe after March 23, 2007"? And the one thing that indicates that Volume 4 took place in the span of more than a year is the fact that right now it's 2009: this is a given. Volume 3 took place around 2007. Volume 4 started two months after Volume 3 (which was in 2007) and ended six weeks before Volume 5 (which is in 2009). --Radicell 08:16, 4 November 2009 (EST)
          • We know because of the timeline and dates we do have. Timeline:March_2007 . We know that Volume 3 starts on March 20th, 2007. We know that Angels and Monsters is the 23rd or so. Thanks to the storyline we know there were no breaks between episodes lasting longer than a day, some episodes even occurring within the same day. THAT is how. As for the rest of your statement, the ACTUAL real world time hasn't matched the show's since midway 1st season, so it being 2009 in real life has no bearing on the show. It was 2008 when a lot of this stuff in show was 2007. On top of that "six weeks" + "any day in 2007" does not = "2009". Thats some REALLY bad math right there. --Action Figure 08:33, 4 November 2009 (EST)
            • We know it's 2009 because Hiro traveled three years back to 2006. So 2006 + 3 = 2009. Basic math. Septemberish/Octoberish 2009 is the present, yeah? Volume 4 ended six weeks ago, so that'd be August/September 2009. It also began two months after Volume 3, so around May/June 2007 (you yourself said this). Therefore, Volume 4 began at May/June 2007 and ended at August/September 2009. All the evidence is right there, and nothing is contradicting it. --Radicell 08:47, 4 November 2009 (EST)
        • You have no idea what this conversation is about. We all KNOW they are saying its 2009 now, the PROBLEM is that it doesnt fit because there an entire year missing in there. They slid the timescale. --Action Figure 09:29, 4 November 2009 (EST)
          • I think Radicell means that Volume Four could last a year or maybe longer, thus filling in the gaps in the timeline. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
            • Go back and watch it.. it couldn't. --Action Figure 09:43, 4 November 2009 (EST)
              • Why not? Everyone traveled a lot in this volume. Sylar searched for his father, then he went to Danko and offered him his service, then he (as agent Donner) captured a lot of evolved humans, and only then he decided to pose as the President, ending the volume. Hiro and Ando traveled to India and back to America to find and reunite the Parkmans, after which they went to bring down Building 26. And the same with other characters... All these migrations could take a lot of time. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
                • We all know travel in Heroesverse only takes an hour or two... :P But seriously, its the other storylines that make that impossible. Unless people are sitting around for days and then suddenly decide to get back up and continue with the plot, it isnt happening. Rewatch the volume. No episodes allow for this, in episode or between. Certainly nowhere near the time it would take to make this make sense, either way. --Action Figure 14:58, 4 November 2009 (EST)
                  • It's unlikely, true, and wouldn't make a lot of sense. That I'll admit. But at the same time it's not impossible, and it's the only logical explanation there is, based on what we know. --Radicell 18:48, 4 November 2009 (EST)
                • We dont need a logical explanation. Th ACTUAL logical explanation would be "Oops, the writers forgot" or "Oops, the writers decided the universe needed to catch up... oh well." There simply is no in-universe explanation. It would be speculation to say there is. So now dates will simply have to coincide with what they are saying the time is at that point in the timeline. So if they were saying Vol 1 was in 2006-2007, then it was. And if they say Vol. 5 is 2009, with no explanation how we got here, well it just is. --Action Figure 04:13, 5 November 2009 (EST)
  • Not that it helps anything, but according to Becky's schedule, she registered at A.U. in September, 2009. I guess that's just another notch that the writers are pushing for the show to take place in 2009...but it's also another piece of canon information that contradicts other canon information regarding the timeline... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:58, 12 November 2009 (EST)
    • Actually, that might be the piece of information we've been looking for. Has the year "2007" or "2008" physically appeared in any episode thus far this season? If not, the inclusion of Becky's (presumably) current classes as her "Fall 2009" classes should be sufficient evidence that the series is intended to (at least for Volume Five) be taking place very near the present. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 01:48, 13 November 2009 (EST)
      • Why don't we make a list (kinda like pros and cons) of evidence that it takes place in 2009 and evidence of other years. I'll set it up below. --mc_hammark 12:48, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Volume 3

A few things have occurred to me.

Sandra says Claire is 17 years old (One of Us, One of Them, if I'm not mistaken). Claire was born in 1991, so it was 2008.

Ando says Hiro is 28 years old (It's Coming). Again, 2008.

Hiro and Claire time travel 16 years ago to 1992 (Our Father). 2008.

BUT - when Hiro goes on spirit walk (Villains), it shows Arthur and Angela's anniversary 18 months ago, making it October, 2007!

So my question is - WTF? Green.gif AltesUTC CH

  • See the above post. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:59, 8 November 2009 (EST)
    • Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that we can try hard and calculate the timeline for Volume Four, but it's near impossible to do the same for Volume Three. Green.gif AltesUTC CH

In the notes section

One thing about the notes. It mentions the fact that those are set in 2008-ish and Bob and Elle were still alive. Possibly, this could have been the future that would've happened at that time, before Future Peter did come back. The same kind of thing as in season 1's five years gone. --mc_hammark 13:32, 10 November 2009 (EST)

  • Definitely agreed. It should be in the future timelines. --Janrodrigo 14:43, 10 November 2009 (EST)

Halloween?

To add to our timeline stuff, from the sound of what the sorority sisters are talking about (dressing up as a slutty witch or a slutty pirate), and the fact that an upcoming episode is titled "Thanksgiving", it would lead one to believe that at the very least, we are currently looking at the month of October (almost certainly October 2009). --Ricard Desi (t,c) 22:43, 11 November 2009 (EST)

  • Sounds right...but it's unconfirmed. There are also plausible arguments that the season takes place in September 2007 right now. Ultimately, the timeline is "off" and doesn't show any signs of getting back on track. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:38, 12 November 2009 (EST)

2007/2008/2009

2007

  • The events of Season Four take place shortly after the events of Season Three, which took place in 2007, only days and weeks after the events of Season Two (which ended on March 20, 2007).
    • The length of the events of Season Three are not clear. The only real indications of time are the flashbacks stating "two weeks ago" etc. There are episodes after these episodes but no time is indicated as to how long these episodes take.
  • Tracy was shot in 2007 (Cold Snap). She kills Agent Harper six weeks later (An Invisible Thread). The events of Season Four take place a short time after she kills Agent Harper.
    • It was never stated when Tracy was shot. And she killed Agent Harper six weeks after the events of An Invisible Thread.

2008

  • The banner in The Man with Too Much Brains, which is before Matt found Hana's contacts for Evs Dropper to find. (This definitely contradicts Volume 2.)
- This graphic novel was released after Volume 2 ended but before Volume 3. This should be considered part of the Exposed future, in which Bob and Elle are not deceased.
No, the Evs Dropper story continued after Nathan's assassination.
  • According to The Caged Bird, Part 2, Matt and Daphne go to her house (The Eclipse) three months plus nine months after October 1, 2006.

2009

  • Jeremy Greer is described as being 17 years old (Strange Attractors), and his file lists his date of birth as 10/14/92. If Strange Attractors takes place after October 14, then the year is 2009.
  • Becky's schedule notes that she registered at Arlington University in September 2009.
  • Hiro traveled back three years to 2006 (Once Upon a Time in Texas). That would place the present in 2009.
  • It is unknown how long the events of Volume 4 lasted.
    • Same for Volume 3. Volume 4 started 2-3 months after Nathan's inauguration, and 2 months after Dual.
  • Sabine Hazel is in the carnival with her baby. Had it been 2007, the baby would not have been born.
  • In Slow Burn, Part 8, the calendar on Amanda's phone prominently displays November 2009, not long before Thanksgiving.
  • In Brave New World, Charlie tells Hiro that she was sent back to 1944 by Arnold, and that that was 65 years ago. This brings the timeline to 2009.

Old evidence

Looks like we overlooked this one: The graphic novel Boom takes place the day Level 5 was compromised (wait hang on, see note below), which was "a year ago" from wherever the timeline was on October 5, 2009. At the ABSOLUTE EARLIEST, this places Acceptance in early 2008. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 16:57, 22 November 2009 (EST)

  • Wait, hang on... Noah was IN Level 5 when Sylar mucked it up, and he was already there when Sylar took over the building later on... --Ricard Desi (t,c) 17:07, 22 November 2009 (EST)
    • I believe that Level 5 incident was when Daphne broke Flint out and attempted to break out Sylar. --mc_hammark 17:11, 22 November 2009 (EST)
      • That sounds about right. Meredith and Noah were teamed up for less than a week (so no later than March 27, 2007), making "today" at LEAST early 2008. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 17:45, 22 November 2009 (EST)
        • Was it ever stated how long Noah and Meredith were teamed up for? And it also depends on what the writers consider to be "a year". For them "a year" could mean up to a year and a half. --mc_hammark 18:06, 21 February 2010 (EST)

Timeline was Retconed

I think there might be a simple solution to this problem: the writers simply decided to catch the shows date with the current date. Maybe it was not even a conscious decsion to do so, but multiple props have put the date in 2009. We can at least rule out 2007 from all serious consideration (using the whole Daphne-Matt at her dad's house GN thing).--Ratclaws 09:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)

  • Unless we get an explicit confirmation by the writers that they have retconned the timeline, we cannot simply ignore canon sources.--Referos 20:30, 24 November 2009 (EST)
    • Exactly. Even if we have firm confirmation that the season takes place in 2009, to say so on the wiki in a definitive way would automatically negate other canon sources. Unfortunately, this is not a case of a simple mistake or two that we can chalk up to a production error. This is a major shift that causes an issue for us. Preferring one year over another contradicts canon sources. Unfortunately, the only solution is to not set dates at all. That means this page is somewhat obsolete, and that dates for current events (like if somebody dies) need to be listed as "Unknown" rather than as a year. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:18, 24 November 2009 (EST)
      • The only thing it negates is an assumption that Fugitives ended a short while after it started (mid-2007). Without confirmation of this, we cannot ignore the canon fact that it is 2009. - Josh (talk/contribs) 17:14, 15 January 2010 (EST)

Bloodlines

This helps. Because if it was one year before around Christmas, Nathan talked to the President (Dual) in late fall/early winter and that's when Joseph contacted Danko. Then late summer/early Fall 09 or could be 08 was when V5 starts ~~IHH--Talk The Gulp-Ninja Series 12:40, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Definitely in 2009

I must ask, are we agreed that the time-line is now in 2009? The only thing (that I know of) that is stopping some people agreeing is the fact they think that Volume 4 lasted only a few weeks. It is never indicated how long Volume Four lasted, so that argument is negated. Are there any others that are against it, and I'll take a try at solving them. --mc_hammark 18:12, 21 February 2010 (EST)

  • Yes. There is plenty of very strong and explicit evidence that Volume Five takes place in the end of 2009. The only counter to that is, as you said, that Volume Four's timeline is not defined, and would presumably last about two years. That seems far-fetched, but there is no evidence for or against it of which I'm aware. So yes, we're in 2009 (FYI, not in 2010 yet). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:32, 21 February 2010 (EST)
    • Is there any confirmation that Volume Five takes place exactly six weeks after Volume Four? All we know is that "Nathan" took Angela to lunch six weeks later. I don't see why we have to complicate the timeline so much.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:32, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
      • There are repeated references very early in Volume 5 to six weeks having passed since the end of Volume 4. --Ricard Desi 21:38, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
        • Can you give me an example?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:39, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
          • There's also references to the Volume taking place over at least a couple of months. Ando said something about Hiro being missing for like eight weeks.--WarGrowlmon18 11:45, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
            • I think it's wrong to assume Volume Three ended in March 2007. Also, I don't think Volume Four lasted a short time. This is all we know for sure:
  • HTSAEM happened on November 8th, 2006.
  • Volume Two was four months later.
  • Volume Four picked up at least two weeks after Volume Three.
  • Volume Five picked up at least six weeks after Volume Four.
  • Volume Five ended in December.
  • Several props point to 2009.

Anything else is speculation. --BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 12:04, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

  • Also, Volume Four picks up less than three months after Nathan's inauguration in March 2007 and it's at least two months between Volumes 3 and 4. Angela explicitly says it's been six weeks to Noah in Orientation. It's also three years after season 1 in 2006.
  • Should a Timeline:2009 be created? - Josh (talk/contribs) 13:50, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
    • I think so.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:26, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
      • The only explanations are that A.) The timeline retconned to 2009. or B.) Volume Four was really, really, really long. Which one do you think?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 15:37, 13 April 2010 (EDT)