Episode talk:The Second Coming

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Episode name?

Is the name of this episode 'The Butterfly Effect', or is it 'A Second Coming'. It said on the Spoilers part of the wiki that it was called 'A Second Coming' LilRebel616 06:09, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

  • Seeing how the premier was named 'A Second Coming', I would presume that 'The Butterfly Effect' is the name of another episode in the season and not this one. --  Seclusion  talk / contribs 08:27, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
  • "The Second Coming" was the first hour and "The Butterfly Effect" was the second hour. They were two separate episodes aired back to back. MistyJo

The citations show clearly the title is from the poem of William Butler Yeats, would this be a NOTE or TRIVIA? (There is a NYTimes article about it worth reading.) --Juba 10:03, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

  • OK, I found the reference, ask God! --Juba 13:42, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Synopsis

  • Is anyone working on or planning to write the synopsis for this episode? If not then I'll work on it, I just don't want to duplicate work if anyone else has started or plans to write it. (Admin 19:19, 23 September 2008 (EDT))

Nathan's hospital

The news ticker at the bottom of the screen reads "Petrelli rushed to St. Joseph's Hospital of Odessa." Hooray, the name of a hospital! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:37, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Sylar's new power?

When Sylar is at Claire's house, he can suddenly light up a lamp and then broke it, and he somehow made the phone failed to work. It could be a really advanced form of TK, but I highly doubt it. Chrisyu357 00:21, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

  • I disagree, I think TK could easily be the case. We know Sylar can turn things with it, thus turn a switch or flip one or whatever, the the phone he could of just torn something out. --PeterDawson 10:51, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
    • i agree with peter, maybe he could just cut the phone cable... he has two hands after all! --cookie 13:35, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
  • He probably used TK to unplug the phone and lamp. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 13:36, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
    • He also teleported. --DocM 13:39, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
      • What did you see that looked like teleportation? (Admin 13:42, 25 September 2008 (EDT))
        • Claire is walking backwards, and Sylar walks behind her to a counter, then when Claire looks he is nowhere to be seen. It specifically looks at where Sylar has gone - and he is not there. She is holding the knife at the time. It's more "implied teleportation" again. --DocM 13:45, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
          • Or he could have turned invisible, used TK to levitate up to the ceiling, or a number of other possibilities. Teleportation seems neither an implied nor a definitive answer.--Paronine 13:48, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
          • I believe in one of the season 2 episodes that never got fully completed prior to the strike Sylar had obtained "adaptive camouflage" which could be what they considered him to be using for that scene. We may find out later if he indeed does have it or whether it was scapped along with the episodes. Just a theory. (Admin 14:03, 25 September 2008 (EDT))
            • I think Sylar was merely floating around using telekinesis. That's why it was hard to follow where he was. Claire knew that Sylar would be right behind her, and pretended not to know...Sylar really underestimated Claire there.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:17, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
              • I agree with Miami because we have seen him use TK to throw himself high enough to catch a branch in Roadkill and he use TK to float so Dale would not hear him and some people think he used TK to slow his fall in Homecoming. SPARTAN-077 18:20, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
                • I agree with the TK being used to float, but not for in Homecoming. I think for that he just landed on Peter (hence why Peter's legs were bent over). --mc_hammark 13:15, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

The Haitian

Yeah, I saw the actor's name in the credits but didn't notice the Haitian in either episode. So where was he in it? --Golden Monkey 16:14, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Scenes deleted ? --LeoChris 16:42, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Mohinder's monologue

I'm glad it is back, even if they did move it to the end of the episode. I've a documentation question about it in the synopsis, though. Should we have all those /'s (slashes) in that blurb? I think it would be easier to read if it were separated by lines instead, kind of like poetry. We haven't used slashes before, so I'm wondering if the reason for having them now is to mark the pauses or something else?--MiamiVolts (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Thanks, HiroMystery. It looks much better now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 06:00, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Your welcome. HiroMystery 06:03, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Should we mention that the end monologue is a direct quote of the poem "The Second Coming"? --Mask-o 17:21, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Continuity Error with the German

When Sylar's looking through the box of Level 5 dossiers while Claire is hiding in the closet, one of the dossiers he pulls out is the German, but Noah was already being held and kept away from his home before the German was captured and locked up, so Noah's files at home shouldn't be so up-to-date. - Only3Penguins

  • Unless the German case has been going on for a long time and HRG was working on it when he was at the company--Skywalkerrbf 12:16, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I would have to agree with Skywalker. From the graphic novels, it sounded like they'd been trying to capture the German for a while.
    • Sorry - forgot to sign my post.--IDannPK 13:10, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

The box seemed to specifically contain dossiers for Level 5 prisoners. Are you saying that the box contained dossiers for both those who are already being held and those who are not yet captured but are considered Level 5 material? I suppose that's plausible enough. - Only3Penguins

Mohinder's power

"Mohinder grabs the gun from one of them and bends the barrel. He throws the other one off of him and he goes flying. Mohinder is aghast and looks at his hands. Above him, on a warehouse, is the same painting that Matt saw in the desert. "

That needs to be reworded. Did anyone else read that as Mohinder using the flight ability? --IDannPK 13:10, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

  • It's a mess of pronouns, that's for sure. I'll fix it if it hasn't already been done. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:28, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Did Future Ando really kill Future Hiro?

Considering what we know about Future Ando's ability, shouldn't we remove all references to him killing Hiro? I know Hiro claims that's what happened, but that doesn't seem to be part of his ability. --Stevehim 03:12, 16 December 2008 (EST)

  • Since it was a different future it could have been a different power (but just LOOKS the same) so could have killed Hiro. Because we don't know we can't say. --mc_hammark 13:13, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

Nathan

What is ever revealed how Nathan came back to life?--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:43, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

  • Plain medical miracle, according to BTE, don't remember which week. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:18, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
    • Or exceedingly weak storytelling, depending on which way you look at it. -- Tristan0709 talk 07:00, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

The Earth Exploding Painting?

So, it's kind of obvious that Usutu painted the picture of the earth splitting in half in the desert but who painted the one in NY on the side of the building? Do you think it was Isaac or another painter? --mc_hammark 13:10, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

  • Isaac's dead. I think it was another painter.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 17:01, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
    • Could have been before he died that he painted it. --mc_hammark 12:47, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Clare and Peter

When Claire phones Peter after Nathan gets shot, shouldn't she think that Peter is dead after what happened in NYC.Homersimpson 10:14, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Yeah, I thought that too. I was expecting more of a "Oh my god! Peter?!"--Catalyst · Talk · HL 10:23, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
    • I think everything happened before Nathan's press conference. They might have told each other everything what had happened to them during four months. (This could be also how Peter knew Sylar had precognition in I Am Become Death.) Green.gif AltesUTC CH

Download

Does anyone know where to download this and the rest of the volumes episodes in one part? daevon 17:37, 11 November 2009 (EST)