Talk:Ability extension

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I'd like to see this as a page in the main namespace. It looks very good, seems complete with examples, and is definitely a worthwhile phenomenon related to powers. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:46, 14 November 2007 (EST)

  • I agree. Especially after Four Months Ago..., this is particularly interesting.--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  15:47, 14 November 2007 (EST)
    • OK, I'll move it and make the necessary changes to Powers pages before I go to work.--Bob (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2007 (EST)
      • Should regeneration be here based on Adam's blood going into Nathan?--Riddler 19:39, 15 November 2007 (EST)
        • It's in Notes right now. I think that's a good choice for now; a person with this power can't just heal someone else (though Adam's blood can), and it's unknown if Claire can do it at all.--Hardvice (talk) 19:46, 15 November 2007 (EST)
          • Plus, all other examples on the page involve the user physically touching somebody else. I don't think that's the case with regeneration. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:26, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Blood transfer

Shall we add a note that it's unknown as to whether blood transfer could work to extend other powers?--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2007 (EST)

  • It's not quite the same as the examples of phasing, invisibility, or teleporting, but it certainly deserves a mention. I think something nonspeculative (and no theories in sheep's clothing) in the notes would be very appropriate. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:54, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • I added a small note. Feel free to clarify.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:58, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Add instances of Homology?

I've got an outline/rough draft idea for a page on Ability Homology (similar exraordinary feats beeing perfomed with different powers). might that be incorporated into this article to make something bigger?--SacValleyDweller (talk) 15:19, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Telekinesis vs Temporal Stasis

I would argue that Peter used Telekinesis in Unexpected rather than having stopped time when he and Claude were attacked on the roof for two reasons: 1. Claude can be seen still moving/breathing; and 2. the taser probes simply fall to the floor - if time had been stopped, when it started again the taser probes would have continued in their trajectory due to inertia. Sylar can be observed doing the same thing in Parasite with the bullet Mohinder fires at him (stopped and then falls to the floor due to a change in force exerted on it). Whereas when Hiro stops time in Four Months Later the arrows continue in their trajectory once time is started up again. In the series Temporal Stasis is accompanied by the same sound as when Hiro/Peter Teleport, and is also accompanied by a lack of score thereafter - neither of which apply to the scene in question.

What are your thoughts?

  • This is the wrong page for this, but it's been discussed a ton already and the writers have stated that time stopped. --Bob (talk) 16:02, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Super Speed extension

In Dying of the Light, we see Daphne taking Flint with her to Pinehearst at super speed. Should we count this as ability extension? I personally would, seeing as how Daphne wasn't actually carrying Flint... she just took ahold of him and they were both able to travel extremely fast. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:56, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Not so fast (pun not intended), in Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, Daphne is shown carrying Samir while super speeding. Intuitive Empath 19:30, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

  • I think that, technically, both are examples of ability extension.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:34, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Not really, Nathan carrying Matt doesn't mean he extended his flight to him, same basis for this example. Intuitive Empath 19:38, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
    • My point was that if she WAS carrying him, I wouldn't consider it extension. But she wasn't. She just grabbed a hold of him. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 19:38, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
      • Ah, if we want to look at it that way, then I think Thrashmeister is correct. Flint's example was an extension of super speed but Samir's was not. However, I couldn't make out myself that Flint was running himself and not being just pulled/dragged along.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
        • I imagine that would have been quite an unpleasant experience for Flint if he was being dragged along. :P Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 19:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
          • Indeed, though it's not like Daphne gave him a choice.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
  • How is carrying someone while flying any different from carrying someone along while running at super speeds? When did we see Flint moving at high speeds on his own, rather than being dragged by Daphne? I would consider dragging and carrying the same thing, and it's speculation to say he was not being dragged because it would be unpleasant for him. As such, if super speed is included, flight should be as well (as it's essentially the same thing, just in the air instead of on the ground...see Nathan grabbing Peter in Genesis, for instance). --Stevehim 00:52, 18 December 2008 (EST)
    • Any objections to moving super speed to the Notes section, since we can't say that Daphne isn't dragging people along with her (ie - the same as carrying people with flight)? flight into the main section? It's really the same thing as super speed or space-time manipulation, as all parties are being carried in some form or another. It is also common to say you are flying somewhere, even though the airplane is 'carrying you.' --Stevehim 13:24, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Flight extension?

Nathan can fly at super sonic speed, no be harmed by the thin air and the partials in the air, with peter, peter is also not effected by the partials or thin air.

BUT he is not able to fly, but the immunity is extended,

another example could be peter and Claude, but I don't think they flew fast enough,or high enough.

-fred1793fred1793

  • That's sort of the extension of immunity. All the other cases on this page involve the person giving their ability to somebody who doesn't have it. Nathan didn't really give his ability to Peter, he just carried him on his back. However, since there is some immunity that's inherent in the ability, and we can assume Peter was at least partially immune, I think something in the Notes section might be warranted. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:33, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Immunity extension

A recently added argument to a Sylar theory got be thinking: do you think that when an ability is extended, the immunity to it (if it has one) is extended as well? I think so cause when Daphne takes people for a ride, they don't suffer ill effects from super speed just like her. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 08:31, 19 December 2008 (EST)

Lung Adaptation

Should Lung adaptation be added?

Image:Powers Bianca kissing Gael.jpg --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 18:44, 18 February 2009 (EST)

  • I don't think that ever happened. Wasn't that just a dream? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:04, 18 February 2009 (EST)
    • But Elasticity is a dream... --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 10:33, 19 February 2009
      • Most of Different and the Same takes place in a dream, yes, but it's a dream given by Sanjog through the power of dream manipulation. Sanjog's manipulations have always been more "visions" than dreams or imaginings. What is shown in his dreams have always been true, or at least true "in essence". Piper can, indeed, bend in the ways she was shown. In Dreams Until Death, Gael is simply imagining what the future would hold. There's no special ability connected with his dreaming. Plus, it's debatable whether or not Bianca was making him breathe underwater through ability extension, or if she was giving him breath through her mouth. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:22, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Time Freezing

should we say something about how when hiro stops time near peter, peter's time slows until he is in the same frozen time as hiro

I don't remember that. Unless I'm interpreting your post the wrong way. Speaking of your post, you need to sign it. If you don't know how, click on the second-to-last button above the little box thing that this text is in. Also, fix your grammar.--ERROR 22:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)