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This is currently the only leads on his new ability, please keep it open for discussion - Arkillion. ( I made the article, so contact me for any serious changes).

Contradiction

Wouldn't this contradict a comment that Mohinder stated saying that a persons ability is influenced by the DNA in his/her body? If this is true Peter should have regained Empathic Mimicry minus the abilities he has already mimicked.- Yippee ki ya

The formula was synthetic and as far as we know synthetic formulas aren't EXACTLY similar to an original power, Mohinder's power made him mutate and grow scales and now that he has the real formula inside him he has just super strength and endurance as far as we know. Currently the speculation is that Peter's power is empathic mimicry but temporary and only physically and the shunt may of caused this, who knows. - Arkillion

Couldn't peter be using a variation of power absorption (unknown source) through Empathic mimicry? Because it seems that when a power is mimicked through empathy it needs refining I.E. Elle guiding Sylar, Claude teaching Peter. And when a power is mimicked through Power Absorption it can be used to its full potential nearly instantly I.E. When Arthur used Electrical Manipulation straight after he had taken Peters ability's.- Yippee ki ya

I think that Yippee has a valid theory going. It could quite possibly be that this is simply a new aspect to Peter's ability. Numerous characters from the show have started with one simple ability that has several presentations. An example being Matt's ability to read minds and now put thoughts into peoples heads. Claire's ability to heal as well as her blood being a cure all. I think the name should remain empathic mimicry (NOT Peter's Ability) GraceRunner4000

I'm sorry Grace but that kind of makes no sense to be honest... So his power allows him to mimic abilities from those in proximity by thinking of them and mimicking what he saw them do, and now it's evolved as a presentation so that he can take powers from physically touching someone?

Long Range - > Short Range Mentally -> Physically

I don't think that qualifies as being better.. I suppose a Long Range Empathic Mimicry with instant use/experience of the power can be done.

My personal theory is that not only can he mimic powers by touch but he can give them via empathy and that's how Hiro may get a new power >_> by supercharging with Ando or giving him an ability - Arkillion

I don't think we should list this Peter's ability. There's no other example of someone changing core abilities, saying it's Peter's ability states that he no longer has empathic mimicry, which may or may not be true, saying he got those new abilities through unknown means is 100% correct and doesn't invalidate anything we already know about his ability history, we can't change anything if it invalidates something we already know. Right now, it's nothing but speculative that he has a different ability, as I said already, the "through unknown means" explains it perfectly and we don't risk listing something wrong. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:43, 4 February 2009 (EST)

I'm feeling that Peter has, in fact, lost empathic mimicry. However, he has acquired a modified version of Arthur's power, the difference being that Peter doesn't steal like his dad does. As for only being able to hold one ability at a time, I think this may be part of the ability being new to Peter, and that with time, he will be able to hold multiple abilities like he could in the past, as well as being able to retain them permanently instead of the temporary use he has now. - EValentino 17:08, 5 February 2009 (EST)

I am going to state my opinion again, this time updated. I think that, since peter is new to his power again, that he can only use one power at a time again (like at the end of the episode, why didn't he just fly?), and that physical contact is necessary. And I just resaw the finale from last year and he did fly across the room I believe. --(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 20:53, 5 February 2009 (EST)

  • Nope, he didn't fly across the room at Pinehearst in that scene from Dual. He injected himself, ran to Nathan, grabbed him, and flew out of the building. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:31, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Still Empathic Mimicry?

I don't think this is a new power altogether guys. I mean, it isn't through only physical contact. He flew with Nathan's power without touch between the two. I think the "touching glow thingy" is just the visual artists finally showing what empathic mimicry "looks like". I believe, in almost every aspect, it is still empathic mimicry.--(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 15:47, 4 February 2009 (EST)

  • I have to agree, Peter's and Sylar's powers have practicly no limits and there for the capacity to alter or expaind their powers is always present. Peter was under the influense of drugs, he wouldn't have fully accepted Mohinder's gift in the taxi, otherwise it would have needed to be explained to him. this 'new' power kis just another way to use his initial ability. something like this was seen when Sylar took Elle's power with out killing.Halfbreed1426 21:06, 4 February 2009
    • While I am partially prone to say this too, anything we say on the matter that has not been revealed in an episode/GN/Interview is speculation, so the page stays. Halfbreed, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (--~~~~ ). -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-
      • Actually, Peter did touch Nathan before he flew. In Dual, Peter injected himself with the formula, ran and grabbed Nathan, then flew out of Pinehearst. Heroes has always used effects that are unique to certain powers (Matt's camera jumps, Nathan's flying "swoosh", VFX for Hiro's ability). This is a new one that we haven't really seen before. More importantly, Peter has always been able to hold on to more than one power. Now, he doesn't seem to be able to--he didn't have any more strength when he got Tracy's freezing power, and he was afraid of being sucked out of the plane, despite having previously been able to fly. I also know that the producers have always been interested in grounding Peter, seeing as he's been deemed as being "too powerful"--this is a perfect way to do it. Of course, I could be wrong, and we'll hopefully learn more next week...but I think for now we're safe in not calling it empathic mimicry. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2009 (EST)
        • I did receive confirmation of some sort that the observations we made were intentional and aspects of this new ability. This confirmation included that as of this afternoon the writers didn't have a specific name for his new ability yet. (Admin 17:18, 4 February 2009 (EST))
          • Thanks, Admin. That's good to know. It's encouraging to know that we're on the right track. I'm also fine with no new name. (I've never been under the assumption that every ability needs a name.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2009 (EST)
            • While I agree that this shouldn't have a name yet, I think 'Power Mimicry' is a good name to describe this. But I'm sure in the next few episodes we'll get more information on the extent of his new ability. --Powermimic 19:49, 4 February 2009 (EST)
              • Power mimicry is pretty good, but if it is a one-at-a-time deal, then perhaps something to the effect of temporary power mimicry or selective power mimicry might be more accurate. That said, we're sure to see more of this power in the coming weeks. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 12:07, 5 February 2009 (EST)
  • I think it might be (Just a Random theroy, dont wanna start new page incase it gets delted in a week or so),But it could be power transfer.--Drwho113
  • For this "new power" does he also take the powers from them or just absorbs them?
    • Doubt it as Nathan could still fly after Peter absorbed his ability to get them out of Pineherst Garthak 10:10, 6 February 2009 (EST)
  • I believe that this is his power developing again. We never saw how he gained his mother's power or even Nathan's. Maybe it starts and grows into being able to hold more. And then eventually how it was? Three 18:29, 6 February 2009 (EST)
  • It is more than posible that he just lost control of the power that he gained from Mohinder, not the power it self. In Genesis, Peter needed to be near the source of the mimiced power, due to the fact that he is now selectively taking abilities he could only conciously use one at a time. after being hit by the capture team member, he lost consious control and, by accident, took Tracy's ability, and with out proper use, froze the wall and made it shatter. Halfbreed1426 11:27, 7 February 2009 (EST)


  • i think that if he touches matt jr his original power empathic mimicry will return. 24 march 2009

Seriously....is this article a joke?

I mean I would understand if this was something unique that doesn't have any similarity to any other ability, but come on. This looks exactly like Arthur's ability 100%. This new one is just a waste of space. Horrorman 17:29, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Not really. It seems to be the common thinking that with this ability, Peter can only hold onto one ability at a time. This was supported in the show, when Peter got his ass handed to him after taking Tracy's ability, and when he couldn't just fly back into the plane when he was about to fall out. It's definitely different. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:32, 4 February 2009 (EST)
And as Admin stated above, these observations were intentional. It's very similar to power absorption, but it's not power absorption. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)
That, and when Arthur would take an ability, the victim would lose it. We haven't that with Peter taking abilities yet. Less importantly, but still significantly, the visual effects are different for the two powers. When Arthur would steal an ability, whisps would flow from the victim to Arthur--almost as though it was the person's "spirit" or a figment of that person. Those whisps were often external. With Peter, the visual flow never left the hands; the effect was somewhat different. Additionally, Admin said he received confirmation that this is a new power (see here). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:41, 4 February 2009 (EST)
When Arthur touched someone and stole their power you could usually see an act of pain upon the person aswell as part of their sort of "spirit" leaving them such as with Maya. Of course Peter touched by Tracy and Mohinder and you only saw light illuminating their hands this was probably done to show something happened like with Matt's telepathy. - Arkillion
What this looks like is a sort of "middle-ground" between the two. Perhaps this is Peter's original power, but because it was returned synthetically, it is slightly less powerful than before. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:11, 4 February 2009 (EST)
Interesting Theory but it still dulls it down to a simple fact that Peter thought of Mohinder and touched him for his power, showing us that he PROBABLY knew his power but chose not to use it, however when he touched Tracy he didn't even think of her he just had her power so I'm guessing this is Empathic mimicry but physically with a limitation - Arkillion.
  • I suspect it's because of an altered formula that Peter now has this "Tactile Mimicry" allowing him to absorb abilities through physical contact, he has the abilities in there, he just needs to learn how to trigger them using this new method, the effect for absorbing them didn't show when Mohinder grabbed Peter to stop him from being sucked out, so it is possible that it's still there and the original owner still has theirs.--Garthak 14:06, 5 February 2009 (EST)
Though Arthur stole Peter's abilities, I doubt Peter lost the genetic imprint required for abilities. I just think that when he took the formula, he regained a variation of his power. Maybe his ability is still empathic but it's just not psionic anymore but tactile, even though I don't like the word tactile. Or maybe even, this is how his ability first manifested--through touch. I mean, look at it this way: babies connect with someone empathically through touch, right? Wouldn't it be wierd if a baby empathized with someone by just being around them. Possibly, his powers started out on by simply touching another and connecting with them that way, and as he grew, he began to connect emotionally, not necessarily by touch, but by being around people. This basically could be a reboot. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but with my theory, it makes senses. But just in case, some of you guys aren't so sure about my theory, didn't Peter touch everybody he mimicked in the past somewhere along the line (i.e. Elle, Charles, Claire, Nathan, Angela, Sylar, Isaac, Hiro, Claude, Niki, Flint, Daphne, etc.) Titan3510 20:39, 6 February 2009 (EST)

One ability at a time

Peter gained Mohinder's strength and fought a guard. Then he gained Tracy's freezing ability--but he didn't seem to have any strength when fighting the guard again. Earlier, he was able to fly, but then was visible worried about being thrown into the sky. I believe these two events are pretty strong evidence that he can only hold on to one ability at a time. Additionally, Admin received some confirmation that the observations are aspects of this Peter's new ability (see here). I assume that part of these observations include only being able to hold on to one ability at a time. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)

  • That's correct, the point that he only was able to hold onto one ability at a time was one of the observations (e.g. when he suddenly found himself weak when fighting one of the guards) concerning his new ability. (Admin 01:32, 5 February 2009 (EST))
  • My theory is that Peter is still getting used to his new power, and therefore isn't capable of holding on to more than one ability at a time yet. The other possibility is that, in fact, Peter can only have one at a time. And that makes me sad. EValentino 17:13, 5 February 2009 (EST)
  • If that's true, seems like the writers found a great way to make Peter a little less powerful. But that's a bit disappointing. But I can live with that. :) --Alen76 10:57, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • Personally I can't. Peter was a cool character with his ability, over-powered at times but at least he was a hero. Now Sylar is the most powerful, which means a serial killer with no limits. --Steelymcbeam 11:04, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • I have mixed feelings. The new limits are interesting, and Peter WAS too powerful before. But I'm afraid Sylar would make mincemeat of him now.--Cro Magnon 11:26, 8 February 2009 (EST)
    • It makes you want to watch and find out, doesn't it! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • Don't be worrying. Sylar doesn't seem to want anything to do with Peter anymore. Sylar's always been more powerful, he won most of the fights they had (Kirby plaza hardly counts as a Peter victory, he didn't manage to defeat Sylar, only subdue him slightly) In Dying of the Light, I think Peter only won by using Intuitive Aptitude (Understanding how Lightning works, then unleashing it with a new degree of control) People are gonna argue with me on this, but I don't care. At any rate, I'm doubting there is gonna be many Sylar/Peter battles now, and i like this new power, as Pete was WAY to powerful before. Lightningguy 20:17, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • On another note if Peter touched Sylar would he then be able to duplicate his original power? And all the powers he has taken from his victims? or just one? TheHunter 03:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
  • Maybe if Peter touched Sylar, he'd gain intuitive aptitude and be able to learn more than one power at a time? EValentino 15:00, 9 February 2009 (EST)
    • Yeah, but he might have to do it the same way Sylar does, by slicing open their skull!--Cro Magnon 19:36, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Does this make sense to anyone?

What if this ability is still Empathic mimicry, but it has altered due to his state of mind? If he is no longer willing to connect with people, a severe change from the old Peter, then this may have affected his ability as his is such an emotional power.--Steelymcbeam 02:50, 5 February 2009 (EST)

  • Admin received confirmation that Peter has a new ability. See here. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:56, 5 February 2009 (EST)
  • I think its a slightly altered version of Empathic Mimickry but it should have its own page.--WarGrowlmon18 11:18, 5 February 2009 (EST)
  • Mohinder Suresh's formula combined with Dr Zimmerman's version might have something to do with this.--Garthak 14:04, 5 February 2009 (EST)
  • It's confirmed to be a 'new' ability, Tim Kring and Milo Ventimiglia mentioned it on the episode commentary. [1]. --Powermimic 20:17, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Tactile Power Mimicry?

Garthak said something very insightfull, tactile mimicry is a good description inso far as to what we have seenEmpathicMimic0

  • That sounds like someone is mimicing the way another person touches...--Action Figure 19:30, 5 February 2009 (EST)
    • It is a simple description of what he has now, could call it Tactile Power Mimicry to prevent confusionGarthak 10:09, 6 February 2009 (EST)
      • It's currently the best describing name for the ability, but agreed that we'd need the "power" in there too, so 'Tactile Power Mimicry'. Powermimic 23:29, 5 February 2009
        • I'm fine with "Peter's ability" for now...especially considering that Admin received confirmation that the writers don't have a specific name for his new ability yet. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2009 (EST)
          • Though I'm no fan of naming abilities by the possessors name, I agree with Ryangibsonstewart. I don't know if any of you guys noticed, but isn't his power similar to Rogue's of the X-Men. Except for that it doesn't harm the absorbee (I know it's not a word but give me a break) and that she can absorb more than one power at a time. Titan3510 20:47, 6 February 2009 (EST)
            • There, name is changed...I think adding power was a little Ridiculous but you happen to be right. EmpathicMimic0 19:01, 8 February 2009
      • On second thought, Peter is a mimic either way, since we have 'Power absorption' which is also via touch, (After we get some more info to what Peter can fully do, and if it fits) I think this should just be called 'Power mimicry'. I don't think "Tactile" or "Touch" in the ability name is necessary. --Powermimic 02:26, 9 February 2009 (EST)
  • Tactile is not needed, doesn't really describe his powers exactly WaterRatj 10:09, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Not Empathic in Dual episode

  • I just rewatched the final episode where Peter saved Nathan - and I just found out that he ran towards Nathan first before flying away, which only proves that he didn't mimic Nathan just be coming near him but by actually having physical contact with him. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 16:00, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Maybe Power Absorbtion after all?

Here is my theory:

I think that Peter has Power absorption, but doesn't want to take anyone's powers away. Therefore he only takes small amounts of their power and thus can only use them for a short period of time. Maybe when he learns to control his power, he can duplicate powers and he can be the all mighty Peter I like.

Feel free to comment..... SlayrNeo 12:04, 7 February 2009

  • ...But then that's not really power absorbtion at all, is it? Your theory doesn't say anything about him permantly taking abilities from others. Regardless, not only have the writers stated it's a new ability, I doubt they would give any of their heroes the ability to just take away a villians ability. It would make things too easy.--BardinessBoy 12:16, 7 February 2009 (EST)
    • It could still be, like when you go to school. You "absorb" the information in the books, but does it vanish in the books? SlayrNeo 00:10, 8 February 2009
  • Admin said he received confirmation that it is a new ability. (see here). Nice, well thought out theory, though. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-
  • Have you checked out Theory:Ability replication? You might want add to that page. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:20, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Just watched Dual

And in the scene where Peter injects himself with the formula, he then gets up and doesn't leap across the flames as previously thought. He flies directly into Nathan, then out of there. No leap! I know the writers have said that he now has a new ability but in my eyes this is a clear example of Empathic Mimicry. Either this is now a plot hole, or it is a snippit showing us that Peter still has his old ability. BTW I watched it in slow motion and normal speed and he clearly flies straight across the flames, no jump.--Steelymcbeam 11:01, 8 February 2009 (EST)

He didn't fly into Nathan... no, he just ran into him. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:20, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Watch it carefully, he clearly had left the ground before touching Nathan and then before touching the ground again flies out the window.--Steelymcbeam 11:21, 8 February 2009 (EST)

As I mentioned in Peter's talk page, it could have been a leap. Ando doesn't have flight, yet he jumped very high and very far at Arthur when Hiro was having his memory wiped clean. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
I just watched it as well. Definitely a leap, though I see where you might get confused. He starts flying the MOMENT he touches Nathan. But he wasn't flying beforehand. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • It SURE IS GOOD that he knew he would mimic flight once he TOUCHED Nathan after having just received this new power! </sarcasm> --Action Figure 12:44, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Most likely instinct on this occasion.--Steelymcbeam 12:47, 8 February 2009 (EST)

    • I was thinking he thought that he had his original ability back. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 14:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)
      • If he thought that then he could have tried to just mimic Flint and extinguish the flames altogether. -Action Figure 01:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
        • I don't give Peter enough credit to believe he'd think that. And there has never been a conclusive example of pyrokinesis extinguishing fire, the Flint example has never been confirmed. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:12, 9 February 2009 (EST)
        • Peter acts on instinct, not logic. But in this case, I think the first idea in anyone's mind would be to just fly the hell out of there. Extinguishing the flames makes things longer and more complicated. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 12:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
            • I just watched Trust in Blood and Peter Confirms that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to Tracy. And is required to touch nathan again to be able to fly away from him. Connorbb 20:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
              • PS. I live in Canada and Trust in Blood aired at 7:00 --Connorbb 20:21, 9 February 2009 (EST)

He surely took Flints power so he wouldnt burn from the side effects of the fire, which is why he could get back up. Or else he would be quite burnt.--345tom 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Sources and Speculation Page

The article has to be extremely abridged or fully removed. Only confirmed information should be given, interpretations and speculationshave to be posted in the fan theories article.

What happens when he touches Sylar?

Would he have intuitive aptitude with all the perks? Bloodbath 04:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)

  • I was thinking of this on the way to college after this episode, I suspect he would take the original ability of whomever he touches, and will be able to permanently acquire any ability gained with that ability (provided he keeps the ability) so if he started to slice off Ando's brain using Intuitive Aptitude, he would gain Ando's power, but if he touched Mohinder, he would lose it. I don't know if powers transfer through corpses since he would have no telekinesis for brain removal. --Arkillion 10:28, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    • Nothing suggests he would lose his old powers then, cause powers are linked, so if i had sylars power and took powers with htat one, he wouln't lose his old ones, cause those are linked to IA and not to his AR WaterRatj 10:07, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Doesnt sylar have a version of empathic mimicry as well though? so would he not get that as well, which means he has his old ability back? which avoids the fact of only having one ability. --345tom 11:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)
      • If Peter wanted he could take hold of all the powers that Sylar posseses by only touching him, or if he found someone with his old power, than he could hold that power for as long as he wanted, indefentely. All he would need is to use Angela's resourses to find whoever has the same power that he used to have.
        • Sylar has his power, that was how he, originally, took elles power. This means that if peter touchs sylar he has his old power which means that his new power wouldnt count for anything.--345tom 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)
          • I wouldn't say Sylar has his power, he clearly had to put himself in the other person's situation, Peter would get the ability just by standing next to them. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:53, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Ability Replication?

People have already set it up as replicating abilities so perhaprs the official name should be ability replication. Horrorman 9:10, 10 February 2009 (EST)

  • Yeah I can live with that.--Steelymcbeam 09:18, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    • Me too. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:21, 10 February 2009 (EST)
      • Should we go ahead and put the change or put it to a vote, hopefully we can avoid the Alejandro thing? Horrorman 9:44, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        • I'm fine with it too, so yeah I say just go to a vote or just go ahead and change it. The Light6 09:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
          • Okay so I guess we will change it, one thing though, how do you do that? Horrorman 9:49, 10 February 2009 (EST)
            • I personally don't think "Ability Replication" is suitable, as far as we know it's still speculative. The name suggests he can replicate an ability, but infact he cannot REPLICATE the ability entirely .. meh cba to argue >_> --Arkillion 10:26, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    • To Arkillion he does replicate the power mimicing it seems to closely related to Empathic mimicry and other sources suggest replication as well. Horrorman 13:20 10 February 2009(EST)
  • I have to vote against this name, it does not imply the aspects of this ability that make it unique from Ability Theft, Power Absorption, Aura Absorption, or Empathic Mimicry. Notice how each of those names mentions the uniqueness of the ability. The name should mention the need for physical contact to absorb and/or that only one ability can be held.Jakk55 11:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    • Not to be picky but to clarify, ability theft is not an ability but a method of gaining powers. Horrorman 13:17, 10 February 2009(EST)
      • I wasn't sure whether I should put that in there but my point is that the name should be a description of ability not a vague name that could be used to describe a multitude of other previously shown(and probably future) abilities.Jakk55 14:16, 10 February 2009 (EST).
        • Temporary Power Replication sounds more specific, or Temporary Power Mimicry--Fr0z3nB0nes 17:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
          • I was thinking that too but we don't know if he slowly looses it over time or if he doesn't loose it until he touches another person. I would suggest Singular Mimicry, Single Mimicry, Sole Mimicry, Individual Mimicry, Solitary Mimicry, Discrete Mimicry.Jakk55 18:24, 10 February 2009
            • He stated he can only hold on to one ability at a time not that he could hold onto it temporarily. I don't see why you would consider a time limit. They wouldn't completely de-power him. Hasn't he been de-powered enough?--Connorbb (CONNOR ROCKS !!!!) 18:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
              • I sorta meant temporary as in he loses it after gaining another ability, but I suppose it only refers to time limits really. Singular Power Mimicry sounds good.--Fr0z3nB0nes 19:07, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                • That's what I'm saying, I don't believe he looses the ability over time, therefore the replication would not be temporary, just replaceable. Temporary implies that he eventually looses it, but my guess is if he never touched another evolved human again he wouldn't loose his current ability, making it not-temporary.Jakk55 19:09, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                  • I wouldn't add quantifiers, Peter's original power only worked within a short distance first, and getting many powers at once made him sick at the end of Homecoming, and we know how both the distance and multiple powers ended up. Putting singular of somelike like that narrows the effects too much. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:12, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                    • I don't personally like the name Ability replication. It doesn't sound like a power, it's more like a description. The name is not canon, therefore This still should be "Peter's ability" until a consensus has been reached. --Powermimic 22:30, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                    • To Intuitive Empath: Peter has explicitly stated that he can only hold on to one power, this as well as being transferred through touch is what separates it from Emphatic Mimicry, so if you're saying that is too minor a difference to help name then it is too minor a difference to be a different ability. If we are going to say we can't name it because it may evolve into something else then we should switch it back to Peter's Ability rather than leave it with an ambiguous name.Jakk55 23:14, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                      • I'm just trying to leave things in a way we won't need to move pages and change hundreds of links if his ability ever changes, ability replication as it is neither limits the scope of his ability nor broadens it, putting a quantifier limits it. I'm trying to make our jobs easier for the future, cause someday, Peter will surely be a powerhouse again, the writers like him too much to leave him like this. Ability replication isn't incorrect in either scenerio, adding the quantifier makes it incorrect in one scenario. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:34, 11 February 2009 (EST)
                      • Then change it back to "Peter's ability", no quantifiers or limits in scope, and no vague description. Either it should be left at "Peter's Ability" until we get something more concrete from the show or the writers, or we should give it a real name not something totally non-descriptive.Jakk55 19:18, 11 February 2009 (EST)
                        • I still think 'Power mimicry' is the best name because it's not limiting if Peter later on can retain more than one ability and it matches 'Power absorption' more, which is also via touch, but steals. So we could have 'Power mimicry' which is similar, via touch, but copies instead of steals. The two are the perfect opposites. --Powermimic 22:06, 11 February 2009 (EST)
  • Personally, I have no problem with ability replication, but this should have never been changed, as there was clearly not a consensus to do so (2 of the 5 or 6 people discussing it objected). And the consensus check has 5 of 11 objecting to the name. Technically, this should be switched back to Peter's ability based on that. --Stevehim 21:24, 15 February 2009 (EST)
  • Technically, peter always has access to two abilities at a time. His primary ability (the ability to duplicate a power by touch) and the ability he absorbs, I'm thinking correction. Because no matter what ability he absorbs, it will never overwrite his core ability of tactile power mimicry. - Fourletterfame

De ol' consensus check

Let's start one of these! Sig and arguments if you got 'em below your choice. If you have a better idea, tack that in here with your arguments. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:01, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Leave as "Ability replication"

  1. ----Steelymcbeam 02:13, 12 February 2009 (EST) Leave as Ability replication, it's an actual name, can be changed later, describes quite accurately what he is doing, bar a word or two.
  2. ----Horrorman 08:57, 12 February 2009 (EST) Being the guy who came up with it and liking the explanation, I have to be bias towards it. Plus replicate implies he can't generate it, like Peter who loses the old ability after he "replicates" a new one.
  3. --Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:15, 12 February 2009 (EST) It's an accurate name, and short of the writers changing his ability again, it'll stay correct even if some efects change, such as retaining abilities or replicating more than one.
  4. --EValentino 13:20, 12 February 2009 (EST)I think it's an accurate description.
  5. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 16:37, 12 February 2009 (EST)
  6. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C ) 08:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)
  7. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:24, 21 February 2009 (EST) The name works, it's simple and easy to understand what the ability does.
  8. --Cro Magnon 20:31, 21 February 2009 (EST)
  9. --Piemanmoo 21:58, 21 February 2009 (EST) It's the best we've got so far.
  10. --Meesa yoda 22:38, 22 February 2009 (EST)
  11. --Gabriel Bishop
  12. --Werdoop 12:04, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Change to "Temporary ability replication"

  1. ---- Because that is exactly what it is. The other name sounds more permanent. -- Tristan0709 talk 03:15, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Change to "Power mimicry"

  1. --Powermimic 02:10, 12 February 2009 (EST) Change it to a basic "Power Mimicry", which simply describe what he can do - it is like his old ability minus the "empathy" and fits in well with "Power absorption" and it's same way of touch absorption. Also because just because he is only mimicking one at a time doesn't mean his ability isn't 'Power mimicry', we have Knox's power which is powered by fear, yet it's still 'enhanced strength'. This is why we have the limits section. I don't see a reason to give him a completely different name.
  2. --Shadowulf Change to Power Mimicry; duh, he mimics powers, even though only one at a time.
  3. ----Connorbb (CONNOR ROCKS !!!!) 16:25, 12 February 2009 (EST) I like it because it is similiar to the name for Atrthur's ability which is ver simiiar to this
  4. --Chubbyboy 13:28, 28 March 2009 (EDT) Perhaps "Ability Mimicry" would be better? The wiki, and the show itself, seem to prefer the word "ability" to "power."

Revert back to "Peter's ability"

  1. --Jakk55Revert to Peter's ability for reason stated above.

Based on current majority We should keep the name as is. Horrorman 22:08, 15 February 2009 (EST)

  • Heroes Wiki doesn't work under majority rules. Heroes Wiki looks for consensus. We don't have consensus. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2009 (EST)
  • So we don't have a consensus to change to any particular name, but we don't have a consensus for the name we're using. 45% want a different name. So shouldn't this be reverted back to "Peter's ability"? --Powermimic 19:28, 21 February 2009 (EST)
    • That's the way I understand it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)
      • So, anybody know how to change it back? lol Jakk55 16:50, 22 February 2009 (EST)
        • Well, others have voted for the current name. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:34, 22 February 2009 (EST)
          • Regardless, there has never been, and there still isn't, consensus on the name therefore it should be reverted back to "Peter's ability" as per Help:Naming_conventions#Ability_Names, who would have guessed there are rules for this kind of thing all ready in place? Jakk55 19:37, 22 February 2009 (EST)
          • This should have never been changed in the first place, can someone change it back already? --Powermimic 20:39, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Images

Shouldn't there be some example images under the Ability replication article? We have seen Peter getting abilities a couple of times. So if someone could get a picture of Peter grabbing Nathan in Dual, grabbing him again in Trust and Blood, and using the picture when he get freezing from Tracy like the one here. All of these would pictures would go good for examples I think. --Catalyst 18:02 February 2009

  • Totally agree. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2009 (EST)
    • I have added a bunch of images using his new "ability", however due to the lack of photoshop I cannot scale them to the correct size of improve levels. Can someone do that? --Arkillion 21:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)

More Than One At A Time

Peter could only hold an ability if the donor was near by, now he can only hold the most recent one. Similiar? Perhaps Peter needs to expand on his power, learning to recall multiple older, thought to be lost, powers and gain a lees dependent control of them. Over time he will be able to use one's such as Flight, Freezing and others that he may find from others.

  • i think peter just doesn't have the confidence to use his ability properly, just like hiro did. Now that peter is regaining his confidence, though, he's slowly starting to be able to use his ability like it was before. User:Peter
    • Yeah, Peter just needs to explore stuff by himself. I'm sure his ability will progress and he will be able to use multiple abilities at one time.--Alen76 11:26, 16 February 2009 (EST)
      • Yeah, lets hope so, I loved the old Peter and his ability. They were both my favourite character and ability. Now that that's changed I am really hoping he learns to recall abilities otherwise I'm gonna be quite disappointed.--Steelymcbeam 22:49, 17 February 2009 (EST)
        • That will be great, its like an ability upgrade ^^.--JLYK 16:53, 21 February 2009
    • Peter's new ability might increase, but I don't think he'll ever get back to the "recall any power he ever absorbed" level. Peter was just too damned powerful, which was why the writers gave him anmesia, and had him depowered by Arthur. I wouldn't mind if he could have a palette of two or three powers to choose from (from the last few people he touched). But Peter should still only be able to use one at a time.--Chubbyboy 13:44, 28 March 2009 (EDT)(EST)
          • The logic has never made sense to me, we have the all powerful Sylar who runs around with his super-telekinesis and doesn't get captured, can't be hurt, and now there isn't anyone who has the power to take him on. It makes little sense why they took away peter's powers only to leave sylar the super-villian that he is. --Fourletterfame 22:13, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

Agreed.

Not that Sylar shouldn't be the super-villain. That's how we like him, right?--ERROR 22:33, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Woot!

It was stated in the latest BTE that if Peter reconnects with his empathy, then he will be able to hold multiple abilities. Now that's an improvement.--Steelymcbeam 09:33, 18 February 2009 (EST)

  • Does this mean he will be able to gain them without touching a sad person? And by that I mean his empathetic mimicry? Or is that unconfirmed? --Three 16:44, 19 February 2009 (EST)
    • It means he will be able to hold multiple abilities but he will still need to touch a person to gain an ability. It's better this way. Empathetic mimicry is too clumsy,lol.--Alen (talk) 15:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)
      • I'm not sure the latest BTE says that he will be able to hold multiple abilities. I'm also not sure when they say that he needs to "reconnect with his empathy" that it means he will regain the ability of empathic mimicry. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)

They mention that he has been sorely lacking in empathy since Heroes has begun. His ability has changed but if he returns to his empathetic ways than he may well be able to retain several abilities, since his last ability could. And as Mohinder has stated, abilities are caused by a person's blood chemistry, Peter's blood chemistry hasn't changed(or changed very little, still unknown exactly what Power absorption does.) so he may still be able to retain aspects of his former ability.--Steelymcbeam 22:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)

  • Look at it this way, the core of Peter's ability hasn't changed--he is still the same, giving him the capacity to take on the powers of other 'specials' to himself, making him imbune with the power that he absorbed/mimicked.
  • Will Peter ever get his old power back? Isn't it possible that somebody asks one of the guys in the Interviews? :) If he wont get back his powers I would be very disappointed..

Skin Contact

Could someone please give me the specific example of grabbing flight through Nathan's shirt? B/c in Trust and Blood I could've sworn Peter touched Nathan's skin at his neck when he absorbed it then. --SpellingBee~Talk to me!~~Contribs~ 23:56, 25 February 2009 (EST) Upon looking at the page again, they changed around that scene a little. Kinda weird, actually. I dunno, but it's not terribly convincing to me...--SpellingBee~Talk to me!~~Contribs~ 00:01, 26 February 2009 (EST)

SuperCharged?

I think when Ando super charges Peter, peter will be able to mimic more that one ablity, thus then mimicing supercharge, and he will be able to supercharge himself. This means that it will effectivly become E.M.

Who thinks this, (otherwise i think Ando and Daphne are gona keep going back-in-time to keep getting syringes of the formular, to get hiro his powers back and peter more powers.) Fred1793 17:03, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Main Image

This, perhaps? It's easy to see the replicating going on. My only concern is that maybe too much is going on in this image, like the laser beam on Peter's forehead. I'm fine with the current one, but I believe that this better shows the power in action. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 19:11, 2 March 2009 (EST)

  • When that rest of you watch Exposed, you will know the image I am talking about, I think we should change it to either Peter absorbing Matt's power or him absorbing Nathan's power. Both examples are very visual and it is easy to see the "aura" flowing into peter's hand.--Connorbb (Connor ROCKS !!!!) 20:22, 2 March 2009 (EST)
    • This, then? -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 15:51, 3 March 2009 (EST)
      • I think that ones better. --Powermimic 07:16, 4 March 2009 (EST)