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Age part two

Prove me wrong, but weren't I right, when I told you he couldn't be 400 years old? =) --BloodyFox, 04:08, 3 January 2008 (CEST)

  • The novel provides the date of the first incident as 1692 and says when he turned 42 he realized he didn't age, but do we know for certain that it was while he was married to her that he turned 42? It's still possible that he turned 42 well before 1692 and it was only after 20 years with his first wife that she got suspicious. Saying he was born in 1650 may be speculative especially given the claims that he's "over 400 years old." In conjunction with this image it looks like 1650 is most likely incorrect. (Admin 22:20, 2 January 2008 (EST))
    • Well, sorry, but to me it's clear that he turned 42 in 1692. Why would they mention such a specific year if it wasn't meant to give us some clarity? "1692, Diedenshausen, Germany. After turning 42, I realized I didn't age." This first sentence would be pointless unless it referred to the second... Well, if you were 357 years old, would you mock everyone with stating that you lived over 350 years, or just say that you lived for 400 years?--BloodyFox, 04:28, 3 January 2008 (CEST)
      • The information conflicts with other explicit information, though. The year was provided to frame the particular event, but to assume that he turned 42 at the exact same time is speculative and conflicts with other dates we've been explicitly given regarding his birth. Maybe this is something Chuck Kim can clarify in the upcoming interview. (Admin 22:36, 2 January 2008 (EST))
        • I'll certainly ask Chuck (it's a question that's been nagging at the back of my mind). It makes sense, though, that 1584 is the birth year for "Kensei the legend", and that 1650 Adam's actual birth year. He only realized he had the power of regeneration in 1671. If he were born in 1584, he would have been 87 when he realized this. However, if he were born in 1650, he would have only been 21 when he met Hiro and learned of his power, discovering his agelessness at at 42 in 1692. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2008 (EST)
          • Yeah, it's a little confusing since he did seem surprised when he didn't die and accused Hiro of doing something to him. I also completely buy the explanation that the legend is inaccurate. So, yeah, since it looks like Chuck was responsible for a lot of the Takezo Kensei information he may have a good answer as to his birth year. I also wonder if he was born in 1630 since that 1692 date in the comic may have been when his first wife ran away which was supposedly 20 years after he turned 42. That would have made him 41 when he met Hiro and would probably make a lot more sense. Plus it makes sense that he'd learn about his lack of aging after he learned about his regeneration. (Admin 22:47, 2 January 2008 (EST))
            • When will be the interview and where can I watch it? --BloodyFox, 17:37, 4 January 2008 (CEST)
              • You can submit your questions here. I don't know anything else. Sorry. --Ice Vision (talk) 11:49, 4 January 2008 (EST)
              • Last update Ryan said that he's shooting for this evening. Since it's a phone interview it may take a couple days before it's fully transcribed, but keep an eye on Interview:Chuck Kim, that's where it will end up. (Admin 11:57, 4 January 2008 (EST))
                • I'm just waiting to hear back from Chuck for confirmation. My computer is pooping all over my email right now, so I'll have to wait until I get to my home computer to check. But we will most likely speak tonight around 9 pm, and then I'll start transcribing. I have family coming in town tomorrow, so I've got a lot of work to do on my house before then; I'm shooting for the interview to be up tonight, but I'm not sure that will happen; let's hope for Sunday at the latest. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Adam's home...

Isn't it technically Japan now? :P Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:13, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Power Classification

After watching Adam and Claire very closely throughout the entirety of Heroes, (their powers are the coolest, maybe apart from Peters'/'s) it would seem that there is a distinct difference between Adam's ability is different to Claire's. For example, when Adam first seems to discover his ability, the time it takes him to heal is much quicker than the time it would take Claire to heal. Because of this, I have come to believe that Adam's ability is different to Claire's, so I would call it more of a "Spontaneous Cell Regeneration" instead of "Rapid Cell Regeneration" or some other term to distinct between their abilities.--Gediness 13:34, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Write it in as a theory on the theory page. I personally don't see that difference. Adam heals much quicker now because he's had 400 years of practice, but Claire heals almost instantly too in most cases.--Riddler 13:37, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I don't see any difference either, and certainly not enough to warrant separate pages. If you see slight differences in their powers, I would think that would just be the way abilities manifest themselves in different individuals. For instance, Evan and Julien have the same power (cloning), but with wildly different limits and capabilities. Same goes for Matt and Maury. I like to think of it as a shirt that looks one way on me, but looks different on another individual with a different build and gait than me. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I agree with Riddler and Ryangibsonstewart, that there's not really any difference. If you look at the top of the article on Adam, it says that his powers are (or maybe I should say were) extremely more advanced than Claire's, seeing as he was quite a bit older.--Hyperdude 18:18, 22 October 2008 (CST)

Adam's demise?

In Dying of the Light, when Arthur takes Adam's ability, why did he instantly die? I mean, I know that he's well over 400 years old, but logically after losing his ability he'd just continue to live a normal life.

On a side note, it could be that after aging so much, his body's cells die off at a much faster rate than a normal human's, and so without his ability, he of course would die near instantly.

Discuss. -- Hyperdude 23:19, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

  • I thought it was due to his age catching up to him, but it could possibly be an effect of Arthur's ability. Peter didn't turn to dust, but maybe Arthur had control over that. I say it's the former, though. Makes more sense to me. JackOfBloodyHearts 23:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Yeah, if you check out the effect what happened was he started to age very quickly and then die. If you think of it as Adam's ability was the only thing artificially keeping him alive after 400 years it could make sense that once it was stripped from him he rapidly died. Rapid cell regeneration... rapid cell deterioration. :) (Admin 23:39, 20 October 2008 (EDT))
  • This is kind of a weird comparison, but if you watch Supernatural, you'd know that demons keep humans alive when they're possessed, no matter how beat up the human's body is. And when the demon is exorcised or leaves the body, the body feels the effects of this injuries instantly. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 12:37, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
  • I agree with Hyperdude, he should have just been turned normal. Maybe I'm missing something here, but if his body is regenerating cells as if he were a 40 year old, then, shouldn't all of his cell be like newish versions of cells that would be produced by a 40 year old? i.e. shouldn't all his skin, organs, etc have been updated recently anyway, due to the normal cell regeneration process? I don't know. That whole scene rubbed me the wrong way; partially because I liked adam monroe as a character, and partially because it didn't make a whole lot of sense physiologically. Plus, one would think, if he ever ran into a leech-like character (like the hatian, who's name I can't remember), wouldn't he also die in seconds? What's different here?
    • Hikash, please add your signature to your above comment. Adam did run into the Haitian before, as Elle and the Haitian were chasing them in Season 2. The only thing I can think of was that the Haitian was consciously focused on suppressing only Peter's abilities, and that that's why he chased Peter and Elle went for Adam. That being said, there's another problem...if Adam's cells were to revert to a natural state of being old, doesn't it follow that he should have received the injuries he had accumulated as well (though of course we wouldn't be able to see that)? So if all of Peter's abilities were all removed as well, Peter should have gotten back the wounds he received in Homecoming and from Elle's zaps in Season 2. Unless, of course, Arthur couldn't take Peter's copy of RCR because he had already taken the original version of that ability from Adam. Arthur being limited in that respect makes the most sense to me, but I've a feeling the story will go with another explanation: that Arthur healed his son when taking his abilities from him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:32, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
      • Miami, I think the OP was right with his guess that Adam had increased cell deterioration due to being around for hundreds of years. When RCR was stolen, his current cells all deteriorated in an extremely fast timeframe with no regeneration ability to counter it. That cellular deterioration rate increase may not be biologically correct, but it seems to be what they were conveying in this scene. That said, I miss Kensei already. David Anders is a fun actor to watch. GabrielPetrelli 16:35, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
      • That's part of what I was saying, Gabriel, though I also pointed out a different question--whether Peter's RCR was taken as well. And I agree it was disappointing that they killed off Adam, as Arthur could almost as easily just taken some of Adam's blood. I hope they resurrect his character somehow.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:24, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
        • Well, if he got only Adam's blood, Arthur would be healed, but he wouldn't have RCR. It's pretty clear that Arthur was after his power, not his blood. -- Hyperdude 9:53, 25 October 2008 (CST)
      • Adam was just in a constant state of regeneration, hence, when he lost his power, he couldn't fend off those 400 years of age of his anymore, so his body rapidly aged,decomposed, and disintigrated. Psilaq Remake 17:07, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

It makes absolutely no sense for Adam to have aged super fast into dust.

  1. In his abilityless state, he has the body of a 25 year old man. 25 Year old men do not rapidly age.
  2. Adam's blood, when removed from his body, can heal someone rapidly.
  3. Thus, when Adam's ability is removed, his blood will still regenerate for him.
  4. Because of this, if Adam were to age at superspeeds, he would not until his healing blood depleats.
  5. Adam must have been destroyed on purpose by Arthur because he has his own agenda and is otherwise unemployable.
  6. If Arthur did not intend on destroying Adam, a blood sample may have been enough.

--Sonixunite 19:54, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

  1. Obviously, in his abilityless state, he has the body of a dusty 400-year old corpse.
  2. True.
  3. Not necessarily true. Keep in mind that we don't know all the aspects of regeneration just yet. For all we know, once Adam's ability was removed, his body stopped producing the "regeneration" things that heal him and other people. For all we know, Adam's ability is magical and Arthur took away all the magic. We just don't know.
  4. Per above.
  5. Or maybe... he just wanted his power. Adam's demise might have just been an unfortunate side effect.
  6. Why would Arthur want only a temporary cure for his being unable to breathe? Wouldn't you think he'd want a permanent power?
Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:03, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
(1.)Wrong. He is 400 years old, but his ability caused his body to remain youthful. His ability causes fast healing and perpetual youth, not a hallucination. --Sonixunite 16:31, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
  • It also makes no sense for a person to be able to fly, or exhibit telekinesis, or create fire or radiation without getting hurt. :) The whole show requires a suspension of disbelief. In the word of Heroes if you're 400 years old and you're stripped of your ability to regenerate, you instantly die. (Admin 20:04, 27 October 2008 (EDT))
    • That's dodging the real argument. The powers are clearly explained by DNA mutations. My suspension of disbelief goes there. If Arthur didn't intend on killing Adam, then the show blatantly contradicts itself. If not that, then it's bad sci-fi. --Sonixunite 16:31, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
      • If Adam's blood can resurrect the dead, then having him alive was probably a threat to Arthur's plans. GabrielPetrelli 16:33, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
  • As I see it, not aging and healing are two distinct features of this power like all other powers too have two "levels". Angela once said something along the lines of "if you heal often enough your body stops aging". I take this as a hint that he reached the second level of his ability. If this is the case then it is not unexplainable that he would age but not get his wounds back, remember that aging is a natural process encoded in the dna while receiving wounds is not. As for the blood, it can heal outside of his body because we have seen in this season that the powers come from chemicals in the blood. When Arthur absorbs abilities he obviously must change the blood chemistry of his victim thus rendering Adams blood powerless. So while it may not make perfect sense, it still does make some sense. --Tordmor 16:48, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
  • maybe arthur thought adam would tell someone about him being alive ruining his plans and/or he could help hiro who could get an army of heroes to kill arthur for good.--Gabriel Bishop 08:42, 23 November 2008 (EST)Gabriel Bishop
  • The writers were obviously going for the 400 years “catching up” with him all at once, but I don’t believe that’s accurate, and it’s a very generic mindless assumption (no offense).

First of all, Adam’s body remained youthful due to his healing ability that prevented his body from deteriorating (by the replenishment of old cells I believe). His body was NEW or 40-20 years old. All the various cells past then would by now be long dead and replaced. Those 400 years weren’t being held back; in fact I don’t think that would even be possible with his powers.

Secondly, the idea that his cells die off at an extremely fast rate actually seems some what legitimate, but why would this be a side effect of his ability? Also if his cells died of that fast wouldn’t this contradict his 20 or so appearance? It would mean that old cells would near instantly die off and be replaced with brand new extremely ‘young’ ones. Also even if this was true, I believe someone else mentioned his blood that would still have healing properties.

Thirdly, this being one of Arthur’s powers also isn’t exactly sound. If he could kill some one instantly as he was taking their powers why wouldn’t he have killed Hiro? He wanted to kill Hiro, and demonstrated that by throwing him off a roof. If reducing someone to ashes is part of the absorption ability that he can hold back as some of you have speculated why would he hold back on a person he intended to kill?--Feral

Actually Tordmore, aging is not encoded in DNA at all. Not even remotely, there is nothing in our DNA that says that we age at a specific rate, or die at a specific time. The process of aging is due to recurring damage by the release of "free-radicals" from the mitochondria in our cells. The free radicals break down our DNA and inhibit our cellular functions, the wear is repaired (at least in the case of DNA) but it's not a perfect system, and overtime the damage accumulates. When your skin cells become damaged over time, they stop producing certain proteins correctly, and your skin sags, wrinkles form, and you look old. As the hair-producing follicles of your scalp have their processes broken down, they stop producing melanin to color your hair, and in some cases stop producing hair altogether. Aging is a varied process, but it is not supposed to happen. Our bodies are for all intents and purposes, designed without a time limit, its just our mitochondria are imperfect yet. Thus, it stands to reason that a person with RCR would not age, as the damage that is caused by the imperfect mitochondria in our bodies would not accumulate over time, nor affect them as dramatically simply due to their ability. --Fourletterfame

That only is one of the hypothesises behind aging, but most scientists to my knowledge believe that there are multiple mechanisms behind it and one of those does affect DNA. All chromosomes have a cap on them called telomeres which with each cell division shortens and eventually when it gets too short the cell in unable to divide anymore. However certain cells like Stem Cells and Cancer Cells are capable of restoring their telomeres' indefinitely. The Light6 03:24, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Regular?

Hey, random question, was his first episode as a regular Lizards? - Tristan0709 02:36, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Eclipse

  • If he ages everytime he loses his ability, then he would've died a long time ago because of the past eclipses because The Eclipse takes powers away. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 15:44, 18 December 2008 (EST)

From what it can be told, not all eclipses take or give powers. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:24, 18 December 2008 (EST)

  • Also Adam would immediately come back to life once the eclipse stopped just like sylar and claire Episode:The Eclipse, Part 2 Gabriel Bishop 03:22, 10 March 2009 (EDT) Gabriel Bishop
    • Sylar and Claire did not have their brains or blood turned into dust. - Josh (talk/contribs) 14:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

he shouldn't have died

his ability caused him to stop aging meaning that his body was unbound from time, not that time was building up, meaning that Arthur wouldn't have killed him by taking his power. he, Adam would merely become human once more, the writers were just using it as an excuse to kill him off rather than pay david anders his paycheque. Halfbreed1426

  • This is an excellent point. If his power was cellular regeneration and if all his cells were is good condition at the time he lost his power, then he should have just begun aging and getting hurt like everyone else at that point. (Unless of course Arthur Petrelli put some sort of mojo on him we don't know about.)--Mtundu 04:17, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  • Thank you God for some one that gets it, the show went in wrong directions and killed those who didn't need to die like Adam, Usutu and Elle or even Knox. They were all intended to be much more, but the introduction of Arthur messed it all up. Plus in Angela's dream there were only four initial villians, because of the two dudes that got the sack for making bad choices with the story line. However alot of the episodes were great and the ending to the voulme was fantastic and they made up for most of their mistakes. Halfbreed1426
    • Okay, some people are missing the fact that in the Heroes-verse, this DOES happen. It doesn't matter why or why not you think he should/shouldn't have died and decomposed. The writers already decided that does happen. Since it happened, so we know it works that way, no matter what you want or what you think. Psilaq Remake 12:43, 29 December 2008 (EST)
      • Excuse us for having brains capable of logical thought.--Sonixunite 15:27, 8 February 2009 (EST)
        • If so, then think logically. If P, then Q. Not Q. Therefore... Not P! That's logic (specifically modus tollens). Applying this to the current situation, if your theory about how Adam's power works was true, then he would not die when Arthur took his power. But he did die when Arthur took his power. Therefore, logically, your theory about how Adam's power works is incorrect. The result is what it is, if the theory says it should have been otherwise, then logically, it must be the theory that is in error. --Dreamsmith 00:01, 17 February 2009 (EST)
  • Maybe he will appear like a vision or an ilusion , because in the world of heroes they always know who to bring back the good characters Cj31094 18:34, 31 December 2008
    • Or maybe they'll just put his ashes in a vat of Claire's blood and reanimate him, powers included. I hope

Me, too, anonymous poster.

My theory is that Adam does age, but his ability fixes the damage from that so fast that he looks 25. Without that constant repair--and the immunity to death that regenerators seem to have--, he succumbed to the aging. The make-up pretty much tells that story, as the make-up artists made David Anders look older and older, until he looked 400. In fact, according to my theory, he probably should have died FASTER than that. I guess they slowed it for dramatic effect.--ERROR 13:26, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

hello

how many other people did not like adam being dead IceGhost78

  • I'm definitely one,but I know there are many others who are not happy about it. -- Bigred24 22:01, 28 February 2009
  • Me too lol. But just out of interest (Going on the Adam and Murry theories), Did Arther use RCR? I cant remember him being hurt, then healing...--Drwho113 03:55, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I too am a fan of Adam Monroe. He was probably one of the best character in season 2 (or the whole series for that matter). It was a shame (and bad writing) that he died. By the way Drwho113, he used RCR to repair the damage to his nervous system, but I do not believe he ever used it again. What a waste. --Reflections 16:52, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
      • True, but I think Arthur mostly wanted it to make him invincible as well as that power makes you nearly impossible to kill. With Arthur he was so powerful he wasn't injured to the point he would have needed that power until Peter and Sylar killed him (I attribute his death to both of them not just Sylar alone).--WarGrowlmon18 11:00, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

Drunkness?

We've seen in a episode that claire couldn't get drunk because of her power, right?

Why is it that in the past, when hiro met Adam, he was drunk? Can somebody enlighten me? WaterRatj 18:59, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Maybe since his power had been activated not long before, it's possible he was still adjusting to it? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:05, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Alot of people have been known to 'feign drunkness' without knowing they were drinking non-alcoholic drinks. Claire seemed to already of realised that she wouldn't be affected whereas Adam was still under the impression he would do. --Quig 05:14, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

I think its a continuity error. --JLYK 22:01, 4 May 2009 (EDT) His power didn't manifest until after he was shot with an arrow. did we see him drink after that?Gamerelite1 18:24, 20 January 2010 (EST)

Richard Sanders

When was Adam, Richard Sanders? I know he said that in The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei, but I've never heard of it before. ----

Also, remember to sign your post.--ERROR 13:32, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

My Theory

I have a theory. Sylar will go back in time, pretend to be Adam, use some ability (Perhaps this one) to let Arthur steal his regeneration while protecting his other abilities from Arthur. Then, he will somehow use shape shifting to make himself look older and older, until he has to look like ash, and so uses dust mimicry to accomplish that, and once the room is empty, Sylar reforms into Adam, shape shifts into himself, and goes back into the present. This way, we have Adam Monroe back, AND the people who hate the fact that Sylar has rapid cellular regeneration will be happy. Thoughts?--ERROR 13:40, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Too convoluted to be good. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:01, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Arthur "takes it all and leaves nothing behind", he cannot choose which ability to steal - he steals them all. -- Altes 08:02, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Phoenix mimicry...

It's too bad Adam didn't have this hell of a power, amirite?--Riddler 03:37, 20 November 2009 (EST)

  • "and would Phoenix mimicry resurrect other people . . . because then Adam Monroe could be saved, since he was involved with Pinehearst?" -- Mike the Man-child!
    • Err, wrong place, I think you're looking for this page. --mc_hammark 11:55, 24 January 2010 (EST)
      • It's my opinion of this topic, quoted from a message I sent . . . "I've made a Heroes RPG forum, called Exodus and I was wondering . . . if he's really based on you, would it be alright if . . . we used a picture of you," -- Mike the Man-child!
        • What? You were asking someone to use a picture of them on another site... unless you're meaning you sent draph that message? in which case you should have made it clear that you were quoting and not asking him. --mc_hammark 12:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)
          • "Just because Arthur Petrelli "killed" Adam Monroe's body (resurected by Phoenix mimicry?), and Hiro Nakamura defeated his "own" mind (in Telepathic state) . . . doesn't mean that Adam's really gone (Primatech's origin story)," -- Mike the Man-child!
            • What? Now you're talking about something completely different! --mc_hammark 14:39, 24 January 2010 (EST)
              • David Anders' "Left in Darkness" role influenced my idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec1JXK-LU90 "since he still has a spirit (because of Mediumship) . . . Adam can still influence the world, by manipulating objects and other spirits . . ." -- Mike the Man-child!
                • This isn't making much sense. Are you doing this on purpose, or are we really not getting this?--Catalyst · Talk · HL 15:22, 24 January 2010 (EST)
                  • Take a look at the history, it is really confusing, and then he goes and changes bits, and adds in links, then takes them out and advertises videos on youtube. Something tells me it's some kind of spammer. --mc_hammark 15:24, 24 January 2010 (EST)
                    • How's it not relevant to Adam Monroe, "Draph" and Phoenix mimicry resurrecting him . . . and no I'm not advertising anything, I'm only giving my information sources . . . so let's just stay on topic, shall we? -- Mike the Man-child!
                      • How is this relevant. The youtube video isn't related to Adam, its related to David Anders. Adam Monroe hasn't been resurrected by Draph with phoenix mimicry. This is still confusing.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 15:59, 24 January 2010 (EST)
                        • We should probably just leave the conversation alone if we don't understand it, since it's not really a "necessary" conversation, and drawing attention to it isn't necessary. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2010 (EST)
  • I made the topic as a joke, since Phoenix mimicry allows you to... rise from the ashes... and Adam was turned to dust.--Riddler 16:09, 24 January 2010 (EST)
    • . . . and I was serious about Phoenix mimicry, so can we still discuss it? -- Mike the Man-child!

Peter reading Adam's mind

if peter can read other peoples minds how could he not get that adam tried to release the virus, even if he had to concentrate at least when hiro trid to kill adam peter should've read adams mindAngel0941 11:06, 21 February 2010 (EST)

  • My guess is that Adam is really good at hiding his thoughts--much like Angela, only 400 years better. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:28, 21 February 2010 (EST)
  • In my opinion he simply trusted Adam's intentions(at least, what Adam told he he's intended on doing). Remember that Peter with EM rushes into reckless decisions. Adam saved his brother's life and I would think that'd be enough for him to trust him.--Realistic 06:28, 23 February 2010 (EST)
    • Peter with AR isn't that better, he's pretty stupid at some situations too :p -- (WaterRatj) 06:40, 23 February 2010 (EST)

Samuel's Dad

Could Adam be Samuel Sullivan's father? Since he went by the name of Richard Sullivan? I know that he was married at the time to Therese. But couldn't he have an affair and named himself Richard Sullivan afterwards? I know it will never be discussed. But I feel it is a distinct possibility. -- User:Blood69 11:37, 26 February 2010 (AEST)

  • One of his aliases was Richard Sanders, not Richard Sullivan. --Ricard Desi 19:40, 25 February 2010 (EST)
    • Fair enough. Still could Adam be his father?--Blood69 05:25, 26 February 2010 (EST)
      • Could Adam have two illegitimate kids like Ted Sprague and Samuel Sullivan.--Blood69 01:27, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
        • Looks like Ted's father is not Adam.--Blood69 19:14, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

Kane

I just read through the spoiler that was released before Season 2 started and found out what Adam was originally going to be like. In my opinion, it was far better then what we have now. Does anyone know why the writers had such a huge change of heart?--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)

  • They probably changed it so that they could do the Adam in the present storyline. --Ricard Desi 16:36, 5 March 2010 (EST)
    • Yeah, "Kane" would've been Adam Monroe's original name (1000 years ago) . . . when he had Ability absorption and Insect control, another reference to Mutant X and Adam Kane . . .

"I know, Victoria most likely had an ability (Biological engineering or Enhanced strength) . . . because of her job and Mutant X, just like "Claude Rains" with his Invisibility?" -- Mike the Man-child!

Totally Unacceptable

Hello gents, forgive me if I'm ambitious about this but Adam Monroe deserves a page akin to one of the Company founders (since he brought them together and was feared by all of them). First off the bat, his profile picture is terrible. It personifies Adam as a sneak and an amateur. The hooded killer (though a guise of Adam in his assassination of Kaito) is not the primary picture intended for a villain of Adam's prowess. When you hear the name "Adam Monroe," what picture forms in your minds? Exactly, a rogue in a posh suit or even decked out in his Kensei armor. Second, his pictures are terribly lax. A casual observer has no knowledge from the pictures of his time with Hiro, his manipulations of Peter, his assassination plot for the Founders, or even his unearthment by Hiro and Ando to destroy the formula. The whole page needs at most an hour of work to preserve the legacy of Adam Monroe and not a glimpse at a minor villain. I'm fresh off a "Generations" re-watch and vastly pumped. Discuss.--Tiz 02:31, 19 July 2010

  • If you think it deserves a total overhaul then feel free to copy the page's current state into a user subpage of your own, make your edits and then leave us a link here. Then, if the page looks good enough, we can make the necessary changes to the main page. --mc_hammark 14:05, 19 July 2010 (EDT)

Immune to pain? (question)

Does he feel pain in the "present"? I vaguely remember him being in pain after being shot by the arrow in the past, but if he doesn't feel pain in the present, then, just like Claire, the pain immunity is probably a case of ability development. Sandubadear (talk) 21:45, 14 February 2016 (EST)