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New Power?

What should we call his absorbtion of fear into strength. TIEM TO PLEY TEH NAYMIN GAYM!!! --DarkPhoenix 16:10, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

  • We haven't seen it used yet. We call it nothing. Fear Conversion. :O --Riddler 16:11, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Until we see the ability demonstrated, we go by what the assignment tracker calls it. It's the system the Company uses to catalog EH's, so I think they'd know his extent. This whole fear-based assumption is based entirely off a statement from Bennet. For all we know, he manifests his ability when he senses fear, and it has nothing to do with his ability, but his mental state as a villain. --Bob (talk) 23:15, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Enhanced Strength

  • If you look at the assignment tracker entry in the episode it says "Enhanced Strength". So no need to play any games, they already named it for us. (Admin 16:12, 23 September 2008 (EDT))
  • Well, it's a special case, and we have a canon...well, MENTION. ...that doesn't count, does it? *sadface*--DarkPhoenix 16:12, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
  • Just an observation but is Knox's ability limited to enhanced strength alone? in the bank robbery episode in S3 when he confronts the German it appears as if he is able to use a form of 'super speed' also avoiding the Germans gunshot and grab him, hoist him against the wall then use his strength to smash his heart.
  • Every new person with this power has indroduced a different varation to it. With Niki's there was the cost of her mind fracturing, Michael's there was the glowing eyes and tattos. It seems that a power can have differnt mechanics to it, like Flint and Meredith's firestarter blue and yellow colours. Knox just has a different element to his power which is to a majority he same, plus he has demonstrated that his stronger than an average person of his build twice with out a source of fear, when he threw Adam one handed into a room and coat hung him in the ally and when he killed Scott who is the only one with the power who doesn't have an other element to his strength. Marcus

Phobic Vampirism

User:Shadowulf1 21:44, 23 September 2008 (EDT) What about phobic vampirism? not vampirism like biting, but "feeding" off of the negative (fear) energy of others to fuel one's strength. That seems to be what it is, right(along with it being the only name that encompasses the entire function of the ability--he senses fear, as stated in spoilers, and turns the fear he senses into immense strength)? Or is this another ability name you'll turn down?

User:Shadowulf1 09:31, 24 September 2008 (EDT) Well what if the fear is apart of his strength? Then the name fits right?

  • It depends. If you're just trying to make up names that sound new and original, then yes it could fit even though it's probably not the most accurate term. If you're trying to document the show Heroes, then no it doesn't fit because the show already told us the name of the ability. Of course, we are the latter so "enhanced strength" is the only possible name for it on this site unless the show tells us otherwise in a future episode. (Admin 09:40, 24 September 2008 (EDT))

User:Shadowulf1 10:11, 24 September 2008 (EDT) Are you insinuating that I'm trying to be pretentious by making up this name for this superhuman ability? No, I was only trying to accurately come up with a name (which all of the others failed; and in case you hadn't realized enhanced strength didn't seem to cover the entire range of Knox's ability).

  • Even if Enhanced Strength DOESN'T fit the range of his ability, it's what they gave us, similar to Donna Dunlaps "Telescopic Vision." She can also see in the dark. It doesn't even matter, we haven't seen him use this 'vampirism' to begin with, so it's not ready to be documented.--Riddler 10:14, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Right. And just to emphasize what's already been said above, the name of the power was already given in a canon source. His assignment tracker page says enhanced strength. There's no need to derive a new name or create a new power page. If people are upset about the "feeding off the fears of others" thing, it can be looked at in two ways--either it's a new aspect of an ability we've known for a long time, or it was Noah speaking metaphorically. Either way, the power name is set. (Thank you, TPTB!) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:53, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

User:Shadowulf1 15:32, 24 September 2008 (EDT) no one's upset, I only gave a suggestion (although I believe that TPTB only came up with that name because they couldn't think of another one, but that's just IMHO)

Empathic Augmentation

User:Garthak 15:56, 03 April 2009 (EDT) Knox appears to have an empathic capability, at least the capability to sense fear in those around him, he is using that fear which augments his strength for as long as it's being felt by those near him. If no-one is feeling fear, he is only as strong as someone of his build. It looks like it is mostly passive, his strength increases if fear is felt by anyone near him, he didn't think "I sense fear, I must draw it in, it will make me stronger", the heavy breathing in is just his way of concentrating, focusing on the task, not let the fear he is sensing distract him.

Assignment Tracker

  • Case File ID-Subject: Washington, Benjamin [Knox]
  • Known Aliases: Knox
  • Nationality: American
  • Date of Birth: N/A
  • Weight: 1_0 pounds (?) (looks like 130/180 imo)
  • Complexion: Dark
  • Place of Birth: Los Angeles, CA (?)
  • Sex: Male
  • Build: Medium
  • Height: 5'10"
  • Hair: Black
  • Race: African American
  • Last Known Location: New York, NY
  • Occupations: N/A
  • Scars and Marks: None
  • Unique Ability: Enhanced Strength
  • Evolutionary Anomaly Class: Cerebral
  • Detail: Converts ___________ emotions into enhanced emotions (The word looks like ambient)
  • Control Index: 80% range (looks like 84/85 but not sure)
  • Data Analysis:

Biological: 45; Cerebral: 75; Elemental: 20; Temporal/Spatial: 55

  • Diagram: Waves hitting his upper body (Head, Neck, Shoulders), surrounded by 2 lines.

Letting curious minds wonder - Cael 13:15, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Changes from S.2 spoilers? To Notes with that?

I seem to recall from Season 2 spoilers that punctured my spoiler barrier that Knox was supposed to be a bartender in New Orleans with the ability of Mental Mimicry. Do I recall correctly and should we put that in Notes? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 19:10, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Right you are...somewhat. I think it's noteworthy, and I'll add it to the Notes...By the way, he still may turn out to be a cop (gone bad?) who used to live in NOLA (though he was born in LA). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:20, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Sorry!

Sorry, it was me who made the link in his power "Super Strength". I just thought it still appears "Enhanced Strength," so it still referenced his Assignment Tracker, but it linked directly to Super Strength without a redirect. After all, right now, they are the same power. But if you don't want that, it's fine, sorry. Just thought I'd explain Super-Hiro 17:02, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Thanks for the explanation, and no worries at all! That's what redirects are for... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:13, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Okay, thanks, you guys seem very nice here, before I joined I've been hanging out here for a while, and even then I could tell you guys were good people. Super-Hiro 06:48, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
      • Actually, we're all a bunch of rude jerks and stupid idiots. We're only nice to the new guys. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:38, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
        • Heh, lucky me then! Super-Hiro 07:50, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Name

This guy's name is Benjamin Washington. He goes by Knox, but that's not his real name (as far as we can tell). We only use a nickname or a name that's not the real name of the character when we don't know what the real name is. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:44, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Actually, I don't think that's right. We use the name they're most commonly known by which is the reason Gabriel Gray's article is named Sylar and Sarah Ellis's article is named Eden McCain. There's a brief discussion about it here from a while ago and a link to the actual policy under "special considerations" here. How frequently was he referred to as Benjamin versus Knox? (Admin 01:48, 30 September 2008 (EDT))
    • Yeah --Piemanmoo 02:07, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
    • So is it a balance of whichever one is used more? How are we judging when one is used more and when one is not? Both his assignment tracker profile and the introduction to The Sting of Injustice refer to him as Benjamin "Knox" Washington. It's a nickname, not an alias. Sylar has never been called Gabriel "Sylar" Gray, and Eden has never been Sarah "Eden McCain" Ellis. Sylar and Eden McCain are both aliases that those two characters have used since the beginning of the continuity of the show. Sure, characters call Knox "Knox", but since when do we use nicknames as article titles? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:05, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
      • Nicknames are alright as titles if that's how they're primarily known. Hopefully we'll be seeing more of him and get an even better sense of what he's going to be commonly known as. At this time, though, the other characters seem to be calling him Knox so that seems to be the direction it's heading. (Admin 13:59, 30 September 2008 (EDT))

Knox's power needs seperate page

It appears his power is alot more indepth than just "Enhanced strength", As in I Am Become Death he has to actually concentrate on absorbing there fear by doing some wierd eye thing, Im volunteering to make this page as i can get screenshots and such of his power easily. --(. .') 15:43, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

  • See discussion here. (Admin 15:52, 7 October 2008 (EDT))

Looking forward to his death

What a bully and hateable character (that's a testament to Jamie Hector's acting). I hope he gets what's coming to him — I for one am hoping Gabriel/Sylar cracks open his head! (Just desserts after what happened in the future.) --Torley 23:02, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

well he is dead now

  • Man, I was so bummed, he was such a ferocious character, truly frightening. --Ricard Desi 13:39, 16 December 2008 (EST)
    • Meh he wasn't that scary. I've seen worse on other shows. I saw a charchter once that kept coming back when he was apparently dead, was strong enough to fight and defeat a charchter that was so strong he could easily beat anyone else on the show and even seriously wounded be able to put up a good enough fight that he nearly won against the guy he was fighting against until someone else stepped in and knocked him off the balcony the fight was taking place on, finally killing him.--WarGrowlmon18 13:45, 16 December 2008 (EST)
      • I dunno, in my mind someone who uses your fear only to become stronger is pretty terrifying. --Ricard Desi 13:53, 16 December 2008 (EST)
        • It only matters if the person fears him. If they don't, he's completly powerless.--WarGrowlmon18 14:01, 16 December 2008 (EST)
  • Amen! I've been waiting for this cardboard character to buy the farm for some time now. I am so happy! :) --Punxas 14:25, 16 December 2008 (EST)
    • True, but it was kinda anti-climatic. The charchter I mentioned in my above post, I'd been waiting to buy the farm for awhile but at least it suspensful and in a fight unlike with Knox. He was just..... frozen. Too anti-climatic.

Assignment Tracker

Why in Viewpoints it it give - BWygq63a which is the password for Knox's assignment tracker profile? Why did it give it if we already have his assignment tracker profile?

  • We didn't have his personal history (which is very interesting, I might add) or his psychological profile (who knew he was borderline schizophrenic?). Plus, there are a number of people (two members of my family included) who follow the assignment tracker profiles, but don't grab screenshots of everything, don't follow the wiki, and don't even know that Knox's profile was already shown. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2008 (EST)
  • On the subject of the assignment tracker, I thought "This intelligence suggests that Matt Parkman may have been a long-standing auxiliary parent figure for Washington, possibly in the context of Parkman's service as a parole officer." was quite interesting. Possibly something that'll be explored in the next episode. --Matchu 12:29, 5 November 2008 (EST)
  • Thanks alot, Ryan and Matchu. --ACDC1989 08:22, 6 November 2008 (EST)

What he was, and what the writers made him into

in first few episode, knox has a verry human--if still i think, a scary quality--human side, but the more the writers craped out, messing with the story in ways that were wrong the more he just became a tool for them to use, esspecially after the inrto of Arthur who made everything blow way out of proportion. Think back to the Juels Vern Convention, where they showed a mush darker view on what heroes was meant to be, Knox was running through a small build up of polic, killing them and staring at the blood on his hands, why didn't they maintain that same quallity of evil in him, rather than give him up to focous on Arthur who was a waste of time.--Halfbreed1426 13:52, 23 February 2009