Talk:Cockroach

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Probably the only one theorie about the cockroach we will have is the Sylar's feigned death one so, should we create a theories section for the cockroach or should we link the fan theories to Sylar's one as I did ? --FrenchFlo 15:14, 31 January 2007 (EST)

It probably deserves its own theory. I'll take care of that now. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:24, 31 January 2007 (EST)
Thanks for the backing up, hard for me =) --FrenchFlo 15:33, 31 January 2007 (EST)

SEX

(Did the subheading catch your attention?) Can anybody tell the sex of the cockroach? I can't. Here's a guide that might help you out... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2007 (EST)

I asked myself this question when creating the template. So I decided to remove the sex part ^^ --FrenchFlo 15:33, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Animal vs reference

If we include the Genesis info, this article becomes more of a reference than an article about that one specific cockroach in Sylar's cell. I guess we could put it in both categories, or we could move the Genesis info to the notes. But in the end, it doesn't matter, I guess. It's just a damned cockroach that will outsurvive me. :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:11, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Tim Kring clarifies what the cockroach signifies

Here's the interview:

One of the things we saw in the finale was the return of the cockroach. I've got a copy of the pilot script that includes those wonderful sketches by Tim Sale of cockroaches kind of taking over the page. It was nice to see that paid off a bit when the cockroach was crawling around on the manhole cover in the finale. Is there anything you can reveal about the significance of cockroaches in "Heroes?"

Well, because I was dealing with an evolutionary theme, I became fascinated with this factoid I read about cockroaches being possibly the pinnacle of evolution because they were so capable of adapting and existing in really troubled times. Throughout all the various ice ages and climate changes and meteors hitting the earth, the cockroach just basically kept surviving and doing so beautifully. They are so perfectly genetically engineered. So, for me, it became the embodiment of this idea of evolution. It harkened back to the original speech that Suresh gives at the top of the pilot when he was talking about this exact idea. It was very important to me to make this last episode feel like a book end to the pilot. So, if you noticed, I started with the exact same narration, we went back to the actual music queues that were used in the pilot. They were woven through at the very begining, they were woven into the scene with Richard Roundtree and were woven into the final moments with Claire and her Father, the exact theme that was used at the top of the pilot. And going back to the Eclipse as well. This was all my way of telling the audience this was all of a piece and there was a plan here. That this, as a volume, was a complete volume and to help people feel like they finished the first novel in this continues saga.

And there's also the juxtaposition between the survivability of cockroaches and the possible survival of Sylar as he may have dragged himself down that manhole.

Right. It's talked about in the very beginning of the pilot. One of the lines was that a cockroach could remain alive headless for weeks at a time, which a cockroach can do - a fact I always found amazing! [laughs] So, this idea that we just watched this guy die and clearly somehow dragged himself into a manhole is exactly the signal that perhaps this character is still alive.

Anyone have any idea on how to summarize that and add it to the article...?--Ice Vision 20:10, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Under Notes: Tim Kring, in an interview, mentions that he chose cockroaches because of their easy adaptability. Something like that. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 20:12, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Oh, I didn't see this thread before I added it. I just summarized what he said in the interview, and left in a few choice words. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:34, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

Just one cockroach?

  • The article seems to suggest that all of these occurrences of cockroaches are just one cockroach (the character box says it's portrayed by "A cockroach"). This could do with being changed, I think.--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:40, 16 December 2007 (EST)
    • Agreed. Perhaps it should be changed to "several cockroaches", "different cockroaches", just "cockroaches", or something like that.--Ice Vision 11:04, 16 December 2007 (EST)

picture

cant we just use a picture of a cockroach instead of one in the show? there is nothing different from a "normal" one and the one in the show. and this picture doesn't have great quality.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 11:29, 12 December 2009 (EST)

  • If it's a "character" that we have to use a character image from the show. For example, we cant just take a picture of Milo Ventimiglia off google and put it up.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 11:36, 12 December 2009 (EST)
    • It isn't a character, it's a species.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 11:49, 12 December 2009 (EST)
      • That's why is said "character" (with the "). If it appeared than it needs an image from the show.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 11:52, 12 December 2009 (EST)
        • Ok i dont want to start a big discussion but.. this picture right here isn't taken from the show either but they use it.
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          • I'm pretty sure that is in use so it can be clear that is it the symbol. We can see that this picture is a cockroach.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 12:04, 12 December 2009 (EST)
            • I dont really agree, but lets keep it this way because of the HW rules :) -- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 12:06, 12 December 2009 (EST)