Talk:Teenage patient

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Female? He's a man isnt he? --SacValleyDweller 12:12, September 4, 2007

  • He looked like a man to me. :) I went thru the article and corrected it. (Admin 12:22, 4 September 2007 (EDT))
    • Sorry about that...I guess I had it in my mind, that the gentetic virus only effected females, and thought 'he' was just an old woman. I went back and re-read the transcripts though, and couldn't find anything stating the virus only effected women. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 09/4/2007 12:34 (EST)

Same Person?

  • Is this man the same as the Agent from the possible future? I checked and they COULD be the same (Gothenem)
    • I've been wondering that as well. It's definitely possible... (Admin 15:59, 4 September 2007 (EDT))
      • I sure hope they get around to tieing back into of may more favorite GNs....any word on Sparrow being in season 2? Since she was in walls, that too might be a clue, and in (How to Stop an Exploding Man), there was a pretty "possible" foreshadow of the speedy-agent in Nathan's ground-zero audience. Now we just need a citing of the fat sumo-agent. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 09/4/2007 16:31 (EST)
        • Oh, I'm sure they won't ever mention Walls again. Considering that that future doesn't even exist anymore, and those two novels were essentially filler until the finale, I don't think they'll ever even be referenced again. As for Sparrow, the only spoiler I know about her is that she will be in the GNs before she's ever on the show. Nothing more than that. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
    • According to the Writer's post in the thread, he isn't.--SacValleyDweller 19:04, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Lots of good info in Mark's posting you included. Thanks! (Admin 19:08, 5 September 2007 (EDT))


  • Does this kid remind anyone else of Powder? Same powers, same feelings of isolation, they even look the same. Any thoughts? --SteelyMan 2:29, September 18, 2007 (EDT)
    • Yes, he does look similar. I forgot whether Badower mentioned that or not.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:47, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
      • He didn't mention in the interview, but I think we joked about it in an email. Pretty funny. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:00, 18 September 2007 (EDT)

Could he, Elle and the DHS agent from the future be related?

  • All three of the exhibit similar abilities. With exception of the teenage patient, they also exhibit similar personality traits-- Horrorman 17:13, 19 December 2007 (EST)
  • Possibly. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 17:15, 19 December 2007 (EST)
    • Maury and Matt Parkman are the only two people who have shown the trait of a specific ability being passed on from on to the next. While its not impossible, the type of power they have does not suggest it. (West and Nathan probably aren't related, for example.) -- Lulu .:talk:. 17:17, 19 December 2007 (EST)
      • Right. There's no evidence that they're related, and there's no evidence that related people possess similar powers. In the words of Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite, "We've seen that the existence of powers may be something passed on, but the powers themselves are a crapshoot of sorts. For example, phase-man + strength-girl = talks to machines." -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:30, 19 December 2007 (EST)
        • But that refers to power placement from parents to children, we've never seen the effects of brothers or sisters having similar abilities, and don't go into Peter and Nathan Petrelli because their is huge speculation about them being brothers by blood. We don't know about abilities being similar amongst siblings. -- Horrorman 18:47, 19 December 2007
          • The quote Ryan supplied still covers that. Siblings come from the same parents, so the idea of "phase-man + strength-girl = talks to machines" still applies, the second child would also get a "crapshoot." Either way, its speculation to assume them related and also speculation to assume Peter and Nathan aren't blood related. -- Lulu .:talk:. 18:51, 19 December 2007 (EST)
            • The crapshoot theory would cover these three individuals, midas man+unknown female=lighting girl, human rechargeable battery, and gov't magneto. We can't be sure the second child also gets a crapshoot power or a similar gift to the others, for all we know they may be triplets, all their ages seem to coincide. Because the DHS agent would have to be in his late 20's given his appearance in the future, the teenage patient seems like early 20's as well, and elle is 24 their ages seem to close to be coincidence. -- Horrorman 18:57, 19 December 2007 (EST)
              • "We can't be sure the second child also gets a crapshoot power..." We also cannot be sure that they don't. Something "too close to be a coincidence" does not a relation make. However, this might be worth speculating about on the respective Theory pages. -- Lulu .:talk:. 19:07, 19 December 2007 (EST)
                • Exactly the writers have perhaps (deliberately) created this uncertainty to be cleared up in villains. Could (if they are related) one of the three become a villain and come after Elle while another the hero comes to protect Elle and they team up after the relative villain (no pun intended)? The writers should consider this option as a sub-plot in the story of villains. --Horrorman 19:22, 19 December 2007 (EST)

First of all, "gov't?" What does that mean?

Second of all, people with similar abilities aren't necessarily related. Joe and Aron said themselves that just because you have a similar ability doesn't mean they're related. You get abilities that fit YOU, and siblings aren't often similar (Genetically, yes, but not personality-wise.).

Third of all, Lulu? He's a teenage patient, so his age is in the teens, not the twenties. Also, the teen's and Elle's ages are their PRESENT ones. The DHS's age is his FUTURE age - four years into the future, I'd say. Elle would be 28, and the teen- Wait a minute. You're on to something...--ERROR 20:16, 11 June 2009 (EDT)