Talk:Miko Otomo

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Miko or Yuki?

So, while I definitely remember Kiki Sukezane's character being announced as Miko Otomo a few weeks back, it seems that NBC has made a last-minute alteration by changing her first name to Yuki. While this new name is only seen in the caption of Otomo's picture on the Facebook page (which was recently edited) and the NBC website, both of them are official sources, so I've moved the page to Yuki for now. If anyone could get in touch with NBC reps to confirm the ditching of "Miko" though, that'd be appreciated. -Kon (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

  • Indeed, the change has been made very recently. I saw the name of "Miko Otomo" since the publication of the stills. As all this stuff are only spoilers, they can be subject to modification until the airing. So what we write may be false ;-) --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 05:12, 5 June 2015 (EDT)

Is Miko Even Human?

I may be the only person thinking this (except my brother, whom I discussed it with), but Miko really reminds me of Quorra (played by Olivia Wilde) in Tron: Legacy. She seemed to have very little memory of the 'real world' and seems 'at home' in Evernow. My speculation is that she is actually digital and 'born' in the game by her father, who is the real person with the ability of 'Digitisation' or some such. The sword is merely her 'gate' to back to home to Evernow. As such, I speculate that she doesn't have a power at all (that we know of) and explains why she seems so much like Katana Girl from the game/comics. Aside: Been a LONG time since I've posted here, good to be back! Although I forgot how to do all the coding and what not, so please forgive any errors... PowerSink (talk) 20:38, 28 September 2015 (EDT)

  • I think someone else here had the same thought as well and personally I think it's totally likely. She seemed very confused and I suspect she may have originated as a part of the game and was "hiding out" in the real world. There are a lot of different possibilities here, though I do think she originated in Evernow. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Evernow is traced back to Yamagato and that the game (or at least Miko) was some sort of AI experiment or perhaps attempts to simulate the conditions that create abilities that resulted in those characters developing an ability in the context of the simulation (escaping from the game would be a super power I'd say). From there much like we have real life people with Technopathy maybe somehow this is the inverse where software was able to physically manifest. I'm not particularly a fan of those video game scenes, I find it a bit hokey, but the story itself has some interesting mysteries. (Admin (talk) 20:53, 28 September 2015 (EDT))
  • Welcome back, PowerSink! I thought the same thing -- not that it's set in stone, but that there's certainly the possibility of her being a solely digital entity that somehow came into existence in real life, though I was thinking more like Weird Science, but I guess maybe that's just a generational thing... :) The Evernow sequences are ... weird ... but if they work, it's because of Kiki Sukezane's fine acting, and because of the mysterious story and father-daughter relationship that tints the scenes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:13, 28 September 2015 (EDT)
    • Hey, I'm 32.5, I remember Weird Science! ;) PowerSink (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2015 (EDT)
  • This theory reminds me of a character in Misfits who was originally just the imaginary friend of another character, but was made real by that series's mass-empowering event. The others assumed she had a superpower like everyone else, but in fact her actual power was just being able to exist in the real world as a fictional character. I like it! -Kon (talk) 21:22, 28 September 2015 (EDT)
  • Well there you go, "Under the Hood" pretty much confirms that she's just some kind of digital being living in the real world. I'm willing to bet that she doesn't even have any powers, and the sword that lets her jump in between the real and virtual worlds is an extension of her "father's" power. --Gibbeynator (talk) 22:29, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Harris' conversation with Miko - IMPORTANT!

So I'm blessed to be able to speak some Japanese, and when Harris is speaking with Miko in the room and asks if "she has her father's power," he continues to ask if she remembers the accident, the death. At least, that's what the subtitles say. When the subtitles read "The death," Harris is actually saying "Anata wa shinimashita," which more accurately translates to "You died." It seems pretty obvious that "the death" was referring to Miko's, but with a direct Japanese translation, it's basically confirmed. How should we handle this information? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 02:03, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

  • Nice job! For now I think that definitely deserves to go into the notes section. (Admin (talk) 02:18, 2 October 2015 (EDT))

Dead or Alive?

Sooooooo do we consider her dead or alive? Technically, the person is dead....but the "spirit" is alive (well maybe not anymore). Sooooo? ~~IHHTalk 21:18, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

  • First off I would say this article should remain based on the Miko we knew vs the Miko that had died in the accident. Of course THAT Miko would be included as it's part of our Miko's history. That being said the original Miko is as far as we know dead and our Miko I would say is also "dead" though the circumstances of each "death" are obviously different. (Admin (talk) 21:27, 22 October 2015 (EDT))
    • So should we have a separate article for the real Miko? ~~IHHTalk 22:03, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
      • If you ask me the real Miko is just a sentence or two in our Miko's character description. Unless we meet the real Miko later in the series in which case then I'd say she gets her own article. (Admin (talk) 22:05, 22 October 2015 (EDT))
        • I've got another question. Since she was just a program, it means she's not an evo, she's not even human. And when Harris asked if she had her father's power, it gave a clue. I think we should change Miko's ability to his father. His father had that ability, used it as far as creating another person with same ability and pulled her from the game. And since they put Hiro inside the game, maybe they're helding Miko's father and harvesting his ability.--Sekobro (talk) 08:52, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Construct

I feel as though we need to do something about the constructs. I feel as though moving forward, the construct will "cease" to exist and the real Miko will be the character that we will come to know. Therefore, I think there are two options here:
1) move this page to Miko Otomo (construct) and Miko Otomo (Hachiro Otomo's daughter) to Miko Otomo.
2) Merge the two pages that way the history of the construct is on the Real Miko's page. I go back on forth on whether or not they are the same character.
Thoughts? ~~IHHTalk 22:36, 29 November 2015 (EST)

  • They can't be the same person. If they were the same character they would be exactly identical in absolutely every aspect, the construct lacks memories before her being brought to life. She is nothing more than a series of ones and zeroes given life. The two Miko's should be labled as construct and biological. --Snow Leapord (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2015 (EST)
    • It's a lot like Jessica Sanders and Jessica Sanders (Niki's sister). The main one is the figment of the imagination, and that's who we have mainly seen. The lesser character we've never seen alive, and so she is designated with a parenthetical note. With the Mikos, the main one that we've seen and known for the majority of the episodes and that Ren is in love with, she's the one on this main page, Miko Otomo. The one that died/didn't die as a child, and is now in a coma is the lesser character that we haven't really seen very much of, so she's the one with the parenthetical note, Miko Otomo (Hachiro's daughter). Now if all that changes (which isn't very likely with only 3 more episodes), then we can talk about a different name for the episodes. But I don't think that's necessary right now. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:46, 29 November 2015 (EST)