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Split history

Is there any real reason to have two history pages? I know it's long, but Hiro and Claire are long too.--Bob 04:43, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

  • I don't mind having just the one page. I made it two only because it's *really* long. Feel free to change it back.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:48, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I'd say we do one page, long or not. (Besides, some of it can be trimmed anyway.) Then after Season One is over (aw, tonight...), we can split S1 histories off and start over for Season Two. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:05, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
      • Okay, even though one of the history pages is gone, it's still two pages: The Company and "The Company/history (season 1)," which I don't want to link because it should be deleted. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:20, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
        • It minus well be two pages (The Company and The Company/history (season 1)) now. Aren't we going to move all the season 1 histories anyway so we can add Season 2 come fall???--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
          • Even if we are going to, there should be a high-level summary of season one on this article (kind of what's currently in the About section of this article), linked to the history article--not just a bare link. And since we have until September to archive these, I think the split is a bit premature as yet. But if we're going to do it now, it should at least be done properly. We also need to be careful of person and perspective in the history section.--Hardvice (talk) 12:48, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

Original Heroes

Should we recognize the group that obviously used to work together? Clearly, at least Mr. Linderman, Mr. Petrelli, Angela Petrelli, Kaito Nakamura, and Charles Deveaux all used to work together as part of the hero-team that made efforts for good until something went wrong. It has been alluded to multiple times. They also all appear to have some type of connection to the combination of interrelated groups: The Company/The Linderman Group/The Deveaux Society.

  • Yes, it has been alluded to a lot, but just becuase it's obvious doesn't mean it's confirmed. We should wait until we have some actual confimartion. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 12:01, 1 September 2007 (EDT)
    • Well said. I'm anxious to find out more about it (luckily Volume Two is called Generations), but I'm not sure the original members will be a separate article. It really depends on how it's all presented. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:05, 1 September 2007 (EDT)
  • I'd bet the mortgage the groups all originated from the same hero-team and post-incident, they all splintered, only to reconvene in a small way for the events driving our plot in the present.
  • "Mastodon!"

"Pterodactyl!"

"Triceratops!"

"Saber-Toothed Tiger!"

"Tyrannosaurus!" this power rangers joke is deemed relavent yet my theory was erased twice? is this a joke?

- Charles, Angela, Kaito, Mr. Petrelli, Mr. Linderman
  • I put your theory back in. It shouldn't have been removed, it looks like a valid theory to me pertaining to The Company even if it does combine some theories we have on other pages. (Admin 19:27, 5 October 2007 (EDT))
  • However, it does need to be spell checked, linked, corrected for grammar, etc. And only specific citations to episodes and graphic novels belong in the Citations column (example: "When Claire cuts off her toe, it grows back. (Lizards)). Other than that, though, it looks perfectly OK.--Hardvice (talk) 19:57, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Rename?

So, there's this clip from the video game, this this shot of a book reading "Primatech Research", and the note about Bob that reads "runs Primatech Research". Should we rename this article to Primatech Research? I think it at least merits a note.--Bob (talk) 00:16, 20 November 2007 (EST)

  • If everyone starts talking about the Company as "Primatech Research", then I think we can change it later. But since everyone still calls it the Company, I think it should just be a note and redirect for now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:35, 20 November 2007 (EST)
    • That's like saying everyone calls Daniel Lawrence Hawkins "D.L.". I know it's not necessarily the same, but its actual name seems to be Primatech Research. I think the writers in the CBR interviews mentioned something about it and it's logo being a tree (as shown in Out of Time).--Bob (talk) 00:45, 20 November 2007 (EST)
      • Primatech Research will definitely need a page at the very least. I would not be opposed to have the opening state something like: Primatech Research, also known as simply "the Company," is a multinational research corporation that bla bla bla and bla with bla. The interview source etc. would have to be clearly defined to ward off other users who might be opposed to the change. They've been pretty good lately about revealing these weird mysteries in minor sideline ways (Arthur Petrelli, Daniel Linderman, the Group of 12 photo and the subsequent labelled one). --Tim Thomason 21:28, November 24, 2007
        • Added a note that according to the Heroes Interactive from Kindred, the writing staff refers to the Company as the Company 2.0.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:52, 24 November 2007 (EST)
  • As of now there is more than one company. Pinehearst and Primatech. So I think we need to update. Titan3510 23:59, 19 November 2008 (EST)

"The Company" or "the Company"

I was noticing that recently most instances of "The Company" were changed to "the Company" but in some of the latest graphic novels they use "The Company". Was there a specific reason it was changed to "the Company" here? -Lөvөl 10:54, 22 January 2008 (EST)

  • I don't really trust the introductions (or whatever they're called). Take Wireless, Part 2 for example. "Gitelman" is misspelled. "Mother" and "grandmother" should be lowercase. "Horn-rimmed glasses" shouldn't be capitalized, and there should be a hyphen between "horn" and "rimmed". --Ice Vision (talk) 11:12, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Thompson as a leader?

Is it correct that Thompson is listed as a leader? He seemed to be a lieutenant if anything (he went lead the mission to retrieve Ted in How Do You Stop an Exploding Man?, Part 2 and Guillame in It Takes a Village, Part 4). He was under the authority of Bob. -- LightSpectra 15:35, 31 January 2008 (EST)

  • Being a leader does not mean he is the leader. He was most definitely Noah's superior (and Haram's, too), so he's a leader in the Company. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:21, 31 January 2008 (EST)
  • I'd be more concerned about listing Ivan as a leader. He was superior to Noah (at least until he completed his training), but that doesn't make him a leader of the company, any more than Noah is a leader because he was superior to Claude.

Shouldn't this be more about the company itself?

Rather than what its operatives do throughout the episodes?--Citizen 10:53, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

  • Isn't that one and the same? If the Company is made up of operatives, then by definition, the operatives' actions would be the actions of the Company, no? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:14, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

How?

How do the Company know where to find evolved humans? Do they have a list similar to Suresh?

  • Perhaps they have an evolved human who can detect others like him/her. Kind of like Clairvoyance. Or maybe they have formulated their own list of possible evolved humans and used it to find other specials.

Chain of Command

I added a Section for the Chain of command within the company and who has been in charge of operations. Retroarcade 16:04, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Disambiguation

Since that there is another Company now, shouldn't there be a disambiguation page for Company? Intuitive Empath 17:11, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

Related Articles Bar

I think that a bar should be created for articles related to the Company, like the ones for the Linderman Group and the Pinehearst Company. Isaacthepainter 10:00, 3 November 2008 (EST)

Name

Given the iStory development, it seems like the proper name for the Company is Primatech... Not saying that we should make the transgression yet, though, just pointing it out :) --Pierre 08:58, 10 November 2008 (EST) ...or even Primatech Executive Services.... --Pierre 09:30, 10 November 2008 (EST)

  • Sounds more like the proper cover name, just as Primatech Paper Co. and Primatech Research are cover names. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:38, 10 November 2008 (EST)
    • I disagree. Flint's Assignment Tracker profile makes explicit mention of the company as being named Primatech. And if you want to disagree with that, then I would argue that Pinehearst is also a cover name. Additionally, the Pinehearst file Arthur has on Kaito identifies him as one of the co-founders of "Prima[tech] -" That's a canon source referring to "The Company" as "Primatech". Personally, I think Pinehearst Biotech and Primatech Research should be placed on equal footing as rival companies dealing in evolved humans, despite both having clear front companies.--Titan3510 (talk) 23:59, 19 November 2008 (EST)
      • If we do rename this article, I think it should be just 'Primatech Company', not 'Primatech Research Company'. See here how the iStory describes the difference. However, we don't yet know whether a single parent company exists as a business entity for Primatech, so I myself am not taking a position on the matter.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:24, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Recently, the show has been referring to the Company as Primatech more and more frequently as well, I think that's mainly to distinguish it from Pinehearst though. Not sure about renaming though, just thought I'd mention that Super-Hiro 08:54, 22 November 2008 (EST)

  • Agree. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)
    • That is just speculative. The Company is being referred to as Primatech, and the main purpuse of the Wiki has always been to mirror the Heroes universe, not interpret it. --Pierre 12:24, 22 November 2008 (EST)
      • It's not speculative to say that "Primatech" is, and always has been, a cover name for the Company. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:28, 22 November 2008 (EST)
        • I think we should rename this Primatech Company and call Primatech Research, Primatech Headquarters, just to mirror Pinehearst. Titan3510 10:44, 25 November 2008 (EST)
        • Exactly; Primatech is the cover name for the Company, not its actual name. Also, I'm pretty sure that when characters ever said Primatech recently in season three, they were referring to the headquarters themselves. i.e. Daphne said to Arthur "Matt's at Primatech." The building. Not the company. I'm opposed to the rename for the reasons stated above, and that giving a name to The Company would ruin some of the mystery behind it. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:48, 5 December 2008 (EST)
        • I think its should simply be called 'company' but thats just me - DARTHCHESS
          • I forget which episode it's in, but Matt says something to Daphne along the lines of "There's a company - Primatech. They have experience with this kind of thing." (It's just before they go to Odessa and find Angela unconscious). --Yamawhata? 15:50, 6 December 2008 (EST)
            • But that's Matt. He's not an agent, but he's been to the Primatech building before. He probably was just referring to it by the building's name. I haven't really seen any Company agents refer to the Company exclusively as Primatech, and if they do, they're referring to the headquarters, as stated before. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 19:07, 6 December 2008 (EST)
  • Clearly Pinehearst Biotech is a front for Arthur's operations, so if his "Company" is being referred to as Pinehearst, then Angela' Company should be referred to as Primatech. That said, if this is changed, it should be made very clear that it's referred to various ways: "Primatech, also known as "The Company"" or some such. -Ricard Desi 16:18, 7 December 2008 (EST)
    • Pinehearst is less of a front for Arthur's operations than Primatech is for the company. There's not really any distinguishing Pinehearst from its ulterior operations, unlike Primatech (paper making) and the Company (bagging and tagging). Pinehearst (Arthur's company, not the legitimate biotech company) is referred to as such because that is the company's name. It's never been referred to as anything else. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 16:24, 7 December 2008 (EST)
      • Yeah, I'd agree with that Super-Hiro
        • I say keep. Raiku 17:42, 12 December 2008 (EST)
          • Same here keep why change.they all refer to primatech as the company. Gabriel Bishop 11:33, 14 December 2008 (EST) Gabriel Bishop
            • To add to this mess, the Assignment Tracker (didn't notice this until now) even says "Primatech" at the top. --Ricard Desi 12:45, 16 December 2008 (EST)
              • I think that's so if an unknowing paper enthusiast stumbled upon the AT from Primatech Paper's website, they would see the Assignment Tracker as a mere... assignment tracker for Primatech employees. They wouldn't have any reason to suspect anything, unless it said "Assignment Tracker 2.0: The Company." And one more counterexample: Angela says to Sylar in Dual: "I wanted you to work for The Company." Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 15:19, 20 December 2008 (EST)
                • LOL. imagine some "paper enthusiast" stumbling upon all the AT profiles and just assuming they were Primatech employees. D Toccs 22:47, 27 December 2008 (EST)

The New Company

Shouldn't the new company have it's own page? --Crazyaspie 22:44, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Well, seeing as this new company is going to have it's place in Season 4, I suggest we wait until then to create a new page. Just mention the bit from the end of "An Invisible Thread" between Nathan/Sylar and Noah.--The Empath 23:04, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
    • It's season 4 now, and their's not much of a company yet. Does it warrant it's own article yet? --mc_hammark 18:53, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

ok...

...this may be a stupid question, but in 1961, we saw 4 of the 12 founders creating the company to protect people with abilities. Now im not sure if i missed something, but how did it go from protection, to bag/tag and level 5?--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:36, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

  • It must have something to do with the Company being founded again in 1977. - Josh (talk/contribs) 16:59, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
    • Bob mentioned in Four Months Later that some of the Founders lost their way. Also, maybe bagging and tagging was their way of keeping an eye on the people to protect them.--WarGrowlmon18 17:06, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
      • Been a while but... The Company has to keep those people in level 5 as they are causing so much havok using their abilities, this would arouse the suspicion of the government and others and the specials would be found out. The company saw that the easiest way to keep the other specials safe was to lock the bad ones up in level 5. And as for bag and tag, would you rather be abducted and not remember anything, or know that everyday, someone was keeping an eye on you, just waiting for you to slip up one little bit or expose your ability so they could slap some cuffs on you? --mc_hammark 18:52, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Angela did say in 1961 that they would do terrible things to keep their existence a secret, whatever it took --Jenx222 · U · T · C 19:09, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

Chairperson status

under the chairperson status angela is listed as active. should it not say something else since her status in the company is no longer active. It should be inactive. --mc_hammark 11:23, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

  • We don't actually know if she is still active or not, she says she isn't but lying is not exactly a new thing to Angela. And when you think about it, only 1 of the facilities was destroyed, I'm sure there's some still operating out there, possibly still being led by Angela --Jenx222 · U · T · C 19:15, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

Picture

This picture of Noah's glasses has nothing to do with the company except for the fact that Noah was an employee and these are his glasses. There must be many more pictures than this we could use. Homersimpson 20:49, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

  • It was our first introduction to the Company, and has come to symbolize the Company. Do you have a better suggestion for a lead image? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:40, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Perhaps the Primatech Paper buisness card, the picture of the group of twelve or the building. Homersimpson 18:38, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
      • The problem I have with that is that all these things are probably used for other articles, and that picture represents not just our introduction to the company, but what the company was to us for a very long time. "Who is HRG really? What side is he on? Who is he really working for?" HRG was our in for the whole of the first season (and its still mostly him now). He represented the Company. I think the picture we have now is a reminder to us of just how good the first season was, how the excitement felt of not knowing the answers to questions that are still to be answered today. I think the image we have now is a very fitting tribute. But then again, that's just me. Although if someone could get a screenshot of it in HD, or Blueray, that could improve it. --mc_hammark 18:46, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

Interesting note

I was watching The Investigators the other night and saw an episode where a guy murdered his best friend's wife and claimed to be an assaisian for an organization called The Company that hunted down and killed bad guys. He truly believed he was telling the truth, but it just turned out to be a con by the husband to get the guy to murder his wife.--WarGrowlmon18 11:01, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Picture?

Does anyone have a picture to represent the Company in season two?--Boycool42 13:52, 13 March 2010 (EST)

  • Like what? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:46, 13 March 2010 (EST)
    • Well the hrgs have come to represent the Company in season one. I'm wondering if there is a picture to represent them in season one.--Boycool42 17:34, 13 March 2010 (EST)