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<strike>Where do we get that this episode airs in 2010? If they need to get all the episodes aired by February (the 2010 Winter Olympics), they'd need to air through December. I think Heroes TV Guide had it right when they said that the air date was December 7, 2009. Am I missing something about a hiatus?</strike> [[User:NileQT87|NileQT87]] 01:10, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

== Volume 5 Ender ==

Are this episode and the next one ending Volume 5? Or are they the beginning of Volume 6? [[User:Kimera757|Kimera757]] 08:31, 6 December 2009 (EST)
* They said there will be 18 or 19 eps in Volume 5. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 08:40, 6 December 2009 (EST)

== Noah's Files ==
A bunch of the names in there need to be documented. So we need to get all of them! {{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 20:35, 4 January 2010 (EST)
* I uploaded a couple of images concerning this matter. Hope that will help. --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 11:56, 6 January 2010 (EST)</span>

== Irony ==

Should not be added in the "irony" the fact that Nathan could fly and his funeral were the planes? I believe they also pointed out Peter, smiling. {{User:Tanderix/sign}} 20:05 (Italy), 5 January 2010 (EST=
*I think they just did that because he was an air force pilot. {{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 14:19, 5 January 2010 (EST)
**Yes, it was appropriate for the funeral to include a fly-over because Nathan was an air force pilot. Even if he wasn't, it wouldn't be ironic that a flying man had planes at his funeral -- it would be merely an amusing coincidence. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 09:11, 6 January 2010 (EST)
*Then it's more ironic that everyone thinks that he died in a plane crash. The Flying man dies while flying in the same way that "normal" people flies.--[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 05:17, 7 January 2010 (EST)
** I'd have said that, the irony is "that the man who can [[flight|fly]], dies in a ''plane crash'' and he's also supposed to be a pilot" -- {{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 15:28, 10 January 2010 (EST)
*** He ''was'' a pilot,  before he manifested his ability. I'm just not sure if he flew planes for the Navy or the Air Force. --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 16:00, 10 January 2010 (EST)
***It would be ironic if wasn't a set-up, but not in the way that it actually happened.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 17:51, 10 January 2010 (EST)
**** Not at all what I meant! What I meant was, "A man who has the ''ability to fly'', dies in a ''plane crash'', when he is ''supposed'' to be a brilliant pilot". --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 17:55, 10 January 2010 (EST)
*****But he didn't die in a plane crash.... I'm sorry if I'm still misinterpreting you but I really think you're mistaken about the irony in that situation.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 17:57, 10 January 2010 (EST)
******Of course he didn't die in a plane crash. But the irony lies in that everyone thinks that he did. Cause if you look at the story there are only four people, well five if you count Sylar, that ''knows'' that it's a lie. But everyone else, even the other persons with powers, thinks that he died in a plane crash while flying it. And they have to think that it's ironic that a flying man needs a plane to fly. And I have a feeling that Peter and Noah was very much aware of the irony when they decided to fake the crash.--[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 22:02, 10 January 2010 (EST)
*******But I'm pretty certain that everyone who knew he could fly knew the death was fake. I really don't think we should add examples to the irony page unless we're 100% sure, because it's already filled with bad examples.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 22:07, 10 January 2010 (EST)

== Actors and characters ==

{{Actor|actor1=Henry Hayashi|character1=Ramen vendor|actor2=Ai Yoshihara|character2=Tokyo woman|actor3=Noah Greenwood|character3=Tokyo robber|character3image=Tokyo robber.jpg}}
{{Actor|actor1=Keisuke Hoashi|character1=Tokyo cop|actor2=Adam Lazarre-White|character2=Ian Michaels|character2image=Ian.jpg|actor3=Matt Sigloch|character3=Funeral lieutenant}}
{{Actor|actor1=Julian De La Celle|character1=Samuel Sullivan|character1image=Young Samuel.jpg|actor2=Doug Haley|character2=Joseph Sullivan|character2image=Young Joseph.jpg}}
--[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 04:01, 5 January 2010 (EST)
* Tokyo robber (Noah Greenwood) was credited on IMDB as 'Shonen'. I thought i changed this, is this changed back by someone? Can this be changed or does IMDB has it wrong? --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 07:49, 6 January 2010 (EST)</span>
**We don't always use the name that the actor was credited with. In this case, I think "Tokyo robber" is a much better name than "Shonen", which will confuse most readers. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 09:04, 6 January 2010 (EST)
***Ah well that explains it. Thanx! --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 11:55, 6 January 2010 (EST)</span>

== Dylan Baker ==
*I am almost positive, from looking at promo pics of the funeral scene, that the man behind Angela is not Dylan Baker (Curt Connors from the Spider-Man trilogy) although he does look similar.  If someone has proof otherwise, please post it here and add it back to the trivia in the article.  Otherwise, I have deleted it.  --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 19:41, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Eli ==
I can't help it, but I find him very scary. He gives me the creeps.--[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 05:44, 7 January 2010 (EST)
* LOL, why? --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 15:43, 7 January 2010 (EST)</span>
**Don't know. I just get very uncomfortable every time he pops up in the show. There's something very slimy in his eyes...--[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 16:37, 7 January 2010 (EST)
***I think it's the fact he can appear in any direction you look at. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:20, 8 January 2010 (EST)
****Maybe you're right. I just know that I don't like him at all. He's just creepy.--[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 22:04, 10 January 2010 (EST)
*** Well you,re right about his eyes, they do look scary! --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 05:48, 11 January 2010 (EST)</span>

== Summary images ==

Why dont we have any images in the summary section for [[Upon This Rock]] and [[Let It Bleed]]?--{{User:Yoshi n1/sig1}} 14:15, 9 January 2010 (EST)
*  I don't think anyone has uploaded any yet -- {{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 14:18, 9 January 2010 (EST)
** We really should, mabye i will if i got some time left.--{{User:Yoshi n1/sig1}} 14:22, 9 January 2010 (EST)
***I got some pretty evenly spaced images that represent all storylines, I only need an image of Samuel and the cello in Emma's apartment, could somebody get that for me? --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 20:11, 9 January 2010 (EST)
**** Yeah sure i can get that for you. BTW if anyone needs a particular image you can always ask me.
[[Image:Samuel (with a cello).jpg|thumb|left|Samuel send Emma a cello.]]
[[Image:Samuel (with a cello) 1.jpg|thumb|left|Samuel send Emma a cello.]]
--<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 07:43, 10 January 2010 (EST)</span>
***** Great, thanks a lot! --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 12:40, 10 January 2010 (EST)

== Very Claire ==

From the summary, this seems like a very Claire centric episode *yawn*. Also anyone else notice that half the people in [[Noah's files]] are dead, or don't have their power anymore? --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 08:08, 11 January 2010 (EST)

== Monologue ==

I didn't notice it till [[User:Eutrope|Eutrope]] pointed it out... did anyone see the similarity between the closing monologue of [[Four Months Ago]] and the opening one of this episode. They're almost exactly the same, with some more lines put into this one! --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 11:24, 24 January 2010 (EST)
*I didn't know where the original naration was from, but I knew it sounds extremely familiar. --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 12:13, 24 January 2010 (EST)