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==Review==
Wow. Either this episode was awesome and action-packed, or extremely corny, depending on your point of view. I thought it the former, but I hate how they keep showing us Claude for no reason. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:28, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
* I dunno really, i kinda like them bringing back Claude, hes a quite interesting character, but that's my opinion. I agree that this graphic novel was incredibly corny. I hardly see the point of rebel being dwelled upon now that building 26 is gone. they should be renamed from rebel to redundant. --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 11:35, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
**That's because the novel takes place in the past while michah was first starting up rebel.
*** They didn't show Claude for no reason, remember Claude was with Abigail in the earlier graphic novels when Elle was trying to fix her powers. I really don't think they put in Claude just because they could, because that would be ignoring the connection that was made long before this graphic novel.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 10:10, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

==Is Claude dead?==

Given the building they were in collapsed after West flies Sparrow and Abigail out, what happened to Claude and Lee? I find it unlikely to believe the writers would simply kill them off, but after what happened to [[Flint]] I'm really not so sure anymore. Is there any way to check? I seem to recall Ryan saying he could get in touch with most of the graphic novel writers (correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe he could ask about it? Forgive me if this is annoying, I'm just a tad worried about our favourite invisible man. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 08:51, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*I'd doubt it. Claude is somewhat important, the fan backlash would be enormous. They'll probably just retcon him to be one of the sedated redshirts in Building 26, like how they retconned the fugitive that got sucked out of the plane to be Sparrow.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 09:23, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*I wouldnt say they retconned it, they just explained who was under the mask.--[[User:Icefire227|Icefire227]] 12:42, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

== Micah Not Rebel? ==

Well, since Micah said that they became Rebel, does this not mean that he is not solely Rebel and that Rebel should be put under groups instead of being Micah?--[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 13:59, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
* Already been taken care of.  Restored the old [[Rebel]] page, and converted it from an individual character (Micah), to a group of the 4 characters. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/19/2009 14:34 (EST)</small>
*May be a wise idea to add to Micah's page that he is the "original" Rebel, who founded the group. Helps to clarify the situation for anyone who only knows Rebel from the show. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 14:56, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
**Anyone thinks we'll ever find out WHERE Rebel's "hideout" is? Any ideas as to where it is? --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 19:56, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*** [[Rebel's hideout]] is in [[New Orleans]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:43, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
****Well, I kinda figured that, I'm thinking specifically where? [[Duzac's Diner]]? some place connected to Micah or the Dawsons? or just some random location? --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 20:27, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

== Last Page ==
I was cringing heavily at the last page. Great drawing though. --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 14:03, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*Yeah, I hate corny lines like "Together we became...REBEL." That was an awesome picture though. --{{User:Yamawhata?/signature}} 16:55, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

== Abigail Rains? ==

Is it just me or did it seem like Abigail and Claude are possibly related? [[User:AHB10|AHB]]

* Claude is essentially her surrogate parent. The two of them being biologically related is doubtful, as there's no indication Claude has ever had a child. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 14:58, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
** .....Wait what? claude a surrogate parent? when did this happen? --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 15:20, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
**Surrogate in the sense that he seems to act like a guardian to her and Lee. I don't mean officially.[[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 15:22, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
***most likely the one evolved human claude was protecting --[[User:Manwithnoname|Manwithnoname]] 18:37, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*I was thinking this, too.  When West, Sparrow, and Abigail run into that room, Sparrow asks "Who's this?" in reference to Claude and Abigail responds, "That's my--" and is interupted by Claude, "Never mind who I am".  My bet is he's her dad.--[[User:ElleFanBoy|ElleFanBoy]] 22:11, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
**If he is, we might actually get Claude's real name out of this ordeal.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 22:43, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
***What makes you think Claude Rains isn't his real name? --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 23:09, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
**** I'm guessing since [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Rains Claude Rains] was a real actor who played the original invisible man, and from memory, ''our'' Claude sounded a little sarcastic when he first told Peter his name. But considering the old Company and various characters have genuinely referred to him as Claude Rains, I suppose it really is. [[User:Revengeance|Revengeance]] 07:02, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
***** Except that his assignment tracker profile specifically states that "Claude Rains" is just an alias.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 08:43, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

==Telekinesis==
One of the soldiers is thrown up into the air while Lee is being carted off. Now, it shows that Sparrow and Abigail aren't using their abilities when they run up the stairs, and it also seems unlikely that Claude has the necessary body strength to lift someone up fast enough to require a motion blur effect. I'm thinking Lee has telekinesis.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 17:37, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*It is Claude, you can tell by the distorted shadow like effect near the guy, it's the same as when Claude goes invisible and starts beating the other guys up. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:32, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
**Well, the artwork is very confusing. I don't know how strong Claude is, but he's picking a guy up from behind, and lifts him OVER HIS HEAD rather easily.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 21:09, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
***Not to mention, Lee's hand is thrown out in the direction the guy was flying, through the arms of the guys carrying him away, as if he was flining the guy with telekinesis.  However, I do think that makes more sense in it being Claude.  The art was a little confusing, but it's that little blur/shadow/ripple effect thingy under the guy that makes me think it was Claude.--[[User:ElleFanBoy|ElleFanBoy]] 22:15, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
****This is one of those things that we need to contact the writers about. It doesn't help that Claude appears right next to the trio, if he's supposed to be holding a guy roughly the same weight as him, give or take the weight of the army gear, up over his head.--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 22:39, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
*****There's also [[adrenaline]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 14:36, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
******And [[Heroin|hardcore drugs]]. I quite like the idea that Lee has TK, seems feasible, judging by his body stances. --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 10:53, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
*******One sees what it wants to see. I don't see how heroin would make him stronger. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 13:33, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
********Nor would I have seen how it would make someone see the future accurately, before Isaac. Guess anything's possible, right? [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 18:09, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
*********Heroin doesn't make anyone see the future, Eden made it clear that heroin was a facilitator, something that made it easier for Isaac to access his powers, it didn't make him see the future, it made it easier for him to do it, two different things. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:10, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

==Zach==
Who is Zach? I've looked at the GN but haven't seen any character called that. [[user:joshuakorolenko|Joshua Korolenko]]
**If you don't know who he is, you must not be ready to learn about him.
* Search. [[User:Revengeance|Revengeance]] 07:02, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
*Just in case those last two responses weren't very helpful, Zach is the name of the guy giving Sparrow the car. --{{User:Yamawhata?/signature}} 17:14, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

== The Corinthian ==

Did anyone notice the Corinthian Casino advert on top of the taxi in the first page with Sparrow, by that time the Corinthian would have been destroyed, so why still advertise it??? (Not serious by the way, being sarcastic) --[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 15:01, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
*Yeah, I noticed. Maybe it's a chain and only the LA one was destroyed? [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:24, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

== Micah's Files/ Red Folder ==

What does the thing on the front of Micah's folder say, or what is it, is it just the make of book/whatever or is it some sort of code --[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 15:07, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
*You mean the thing that says "JBadower", which is the artist's name?--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 17:00, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
**Ah, ok thanks...--[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 15:42, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

== Delay ==

Does anyone know why there wasn't a new GN this week? --[[User:Monroej|Monroej]]
*I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the GNs this summer were going to be coming out once a month, instead of once a week.  I know, I was dissapointed, too. --[[User:ElleFanBoy|ElleFanBoy]] 11:50, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
**Once on 2006 +/- on X-mas we stayed without GN too =/ --[[User:Gabrielense|Gabrielense]]
***....huh??? --[[User:ElleFanBoy|ElleFanBoy]] 18:06, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
****No episodes, no webisodes, no graphic novels. Damn. --[[User:JLYK|JLYK]]
*There will be two in June, one in July, and one in Aug. Then in September they'll start rolling them out once a week again to tie in with season 5. In the meantime you can go to 9th Wonders forum and under graphic novels there's a thread where Grisby (spelling?) is answering questions for fans. For example he says Claude is consider MIA and there's no current plans to bring Sparrow onto the show (again).--[[User:OutbackZack|OutbackZack]] 16:47, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

== The next novel ==

Where the hell is the next novel???  Why hasn't it been updated yesterday like it was supposed to have.  I've repeadely checked the site and there is no new novel.  Why???--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 16:54, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
* The next graphic novel will be released next week. The graphic novels during the summer are being scaled back a bit. See [[Ollie Grigsby]]'s [http://blog.olivergrigsby.com/2009/05/heroes-graphic-novels-summer-schedule.html blog] for more information and a schedule. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:40, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
**That's a bad idea. Graphic novels during the summer were a fun way to introduce plots and characters and keep interest over the summer.
***Oh yes I so agree.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 21:14, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
**** I just got an email from [[Tom Inkel]]. He said it's weird to read the fans' perspective that everything is quiet on the ''Heroes'' front because they're so busy with planning the summer arc and gearing up for some great new stuff for the next season (that's about all I can say on that front, other than it's gonna be very cool!)...Anyway, the GN news is a bummer, but if it means the staff is concentrating their efforts on great new stories, I'm all for it! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:08, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
***** Lol at the uses of "great" and "new" stuff :P --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 10:20, 28 May 2009 (EDT)